I was a decade later and, sadly, largely wasted my time in law school studying. It's not a good idea for law students to live in the coops. I went to like 2 coop parties in 93/94ish when visiting some friends at Cal. Good times.

I get your point and am just saying this for general info and not to be argumentative, but there are like 20 coop buildings and most are smallish and quietish. The big ones have some craziness.

Conversations about about migration and its difficulties and disincentives always reminds me of just how incredible the postbellum African - American migration really was.

Underlying the Southern Baptist problem is like a 15 year slide in membership/attendance. They're not alone, either; it's manifest in a lot of organized Christian religions in America. Church attendance, membership and activity is in a long-standing decline.

I say this in a value-neutral way; despite claims to being eternal, what's obviously happening is that they're trying to evolve.

I think the thing we have to recognize or reconcile is that contrary to what we might think, what liberals might want to believe -- that right-wingers alienated people out of church -- I don't think we can claim the attendees who are leaving were necessarily turned off by the infection of right-wing proselytizing; nor is it that the people turning away form the church have all become liberal and hipsters. There may be some of that among younger groups. I think that what's ultimately worrying is the church is being replaced with nothing. They're not turning to modern liberal churches, or investing their time in civic life, or their professions and careers, their towns, or their families. Some are probably turning to more strident, reactionary right-winger ideologies than the church was offering.

BTW, learned from Maddow a few days ago that the judge I worked for 40 hrs a week during a semester in law school turned down job as FBI director. (I figured it was a clerkship without the 80k pay cut, though now I wish I did a clerkship; however, applications are largely based on 1L year, and mine was average--did much better 2nd and 3rd year.)

I only spoke with the judge like 20-30 mins a week (mainly did work for his clerks) and he wasn't chatty, so I didn't know that. He was one of those guys, like Comey and Mueller, who took his work quite seriously. That's kind of a thing with federal judges--most work to present a good face to the public and to reflect that in how they conduct themselves generally. (Trump has to be driving the judiciary nuts.)

A problem we have is that political hacks get all the media, not the serious people actually running things. Trump could build a campaign because campaigns are all surface and no depth. Government is, ideally, the inverse, something Trump seemingly cannot appreciate.

We've gone down this path before, but one new fact is that SF built a lot of new housing last year and, lo and behold, the upward march of prices stopped for a year, like magic. The other thing to consider is that if you believe that one could build an additional 100k housing units without affecting prices, that's actually a great reason to build those 100k units. It means there a line of a 100k people who are so desperate to live in SF that they are willing to plop down $3k a month to live there, but they physically cannot do it because the houses do not exist. That's a huge unmet need!

...and still suffers from "how much do you want me to pay to live in this glorified closet?" syndrome

Here's the internet claiming that rent psf in San Francisco is more than twice rent in Paris. Keep in mind that Paris is the cultural capital of the world (and also has insane height restrictions) and SF is primarily a bedroom community for codebros.

I'm not against building. I'm just not automatically for it. I think the people who live there should have most of the say.

A more clear example is in areas of Marin County which have really really been no growth. They like it like that. To some it's about preserving the neighborhood the way they want and to some it's about jacking up property values.

Now at some point you come up against other issues like rich people cordoning off huge areas where only they can live, dominating the prime areas and causing significant social problems. IMO society at large has an interest there and there's a balance to be struck.

I don't have time to research this atm, but I'm not just accepting as fact that housing prices in SF leveled off last year and that that was the result of new construction in the city.

Paris is a much larger city which to some degree contains it's own suburbs and slums. SF isn't even the largest city in its own metropolitan area.

Depends on what context is used, obviously, but Paris is smaller in area than San Francisco and these days, at least, doesn't really contain any slums. It has spent its history denying somewhat the existence of its suburbs, which are not part of Paris in any official sense. I don't know the area they considered for that chart, but I'd guess they just used official Paris.

rent in tokyo is a 1/3 - 2/3 cheaper than new york according to the first two links on google

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...atchComparison

https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-l...rk-city/tokyo?

expensive cities are mostly a result of strict zoning imo

Cosby jury deadlocked. I guess if you're famous you really can get away with pussy-grabbing

Yeah, SF has ~800k people in 49 sq mi, Paris has ~2.2 million in 40 sq mi. Paris has ~10 million more in its metro area, which is interestingly made up of tons of cities no larger than ~120k.

SF does too (height restrictions, though they don't apply citywide)

lol, now you're trolling. No, that would be places like Redwood City, Mountain View, etc.

I'm absolutely pro-building for what it's worth, but I think the interesting question is this:

Where are the magic desirable cities in the world to live in without zoning laws that aren't super expensive?

Bangkok.

tokyo

microbet's link earlier had Tokyo rent at barely under NYC, but it could be wrong. Not sure what sources are reliable for measuring things like that.

Not familiar w/ Bangkok at all.

Meanwhile, in Ohio:

In 1988 Japans theoretical land value was four times that of the value of the entirety of the USA.

lol bubble.

You mean rape.

Is this the appropriate thread for the American returning from North Korea?

How are you teaching gun safety when you fail the very first rule of gun safety?

Ivy League (and other) universities are waiting on the Trump organization to help them bust their grad teacher unions
https://newrepublic.com/article/1429...p-union-buster

I think the mega-cities trend has people moving to the "2nd tier" cities more now. Where you can still live a suburban/urban rather than rural lifestyle but they aren't the 1st tier economic center cities. Denver, Austin, Houston, Charlotte, Dallas, Salt Lake, Portland, etc

If you look at population gains, those cities are growing the most.

As far as the affordable housing issue, as long as there is a massive influx to those cities seems like it is going to be tough for housing to ever be affordable there. Maybe some policies like Vancouver/Toronto taxing foreign investment of property would help. More building vertically would help, but it isn't like that doesn't come with its own overcrowding problems as far as hospitals, schools, congestion goes.

An innovation in transport would make things interesting for SF, NY, DC, LA