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06-13-2017 , 08:29 PM
Good news for the orange.
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Scientists have developed a drug that mimics sunlight to make the skin tan, with no damaging UV radiation involved.

The drug tricks the skin into producing the brown form of the pigment melanin in tests on skin samples and mice.

Evidence suggests it will work even on redheads, who normally just burn in the sun.
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-40260029
06-13-2017 , 08:44 PM
http://washingtonmonthly.com/magazin...tom-perriello/

Good interview with 1 of the Dem Gov candidates in the VA primary.

Making antitrust/anti-monopoly law a centerpiece of his campaign.
06-13-2017 , 08:53 PM
Also, the current leader in the GOP Lt. Governor primary tried to frame her opponent by sending fake emails from her house implying he was having an affair with a staffer. They were in court, like, last week.
06-13-2017 , 09:03 PM
So this clown in VA won on a "Confederacy was great" platform?

WAAF, thanks SUPER EDUCATED suburban DC
06-13-2017 , 09:05 PM
He actually probably won't win because like half of Fairfax County is still outstanding
06-13-2017 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
So this clown in VA won on a "Confederacy was great" platform?

WAAF, thanks SUPER EDUCATED suburban DC
Almost everywhere else in the state is Deliverance country. Rural America is going to end up destroying us
06-13-2017 , 09:54 PM
One of you guys is a contractor, right? Any advice on whether I should freak out about a crack in my apartment's ceiling?
06-13-2017 , 09:55 PM
Tangier Island will literally sink like Atlantis in the next 50 years or so and they went like 80% Trump.
06-13-2017 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
One of you guys is a contractor, right? Any advice on whether I should freak out about a crack in my apartment's ceiling?
The biggest selling point of the bold is you never need to freak out about anything. Call your landlord.

For a professional assessment of the potential severity and inconvenience to you, I'll need pics of your crack.
06-13-2017 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
One of you guys is a contractor, right? Any advice on whether I should freak out about a crack in my apartment's ceiling?
Does it look like this?

06-13-2017 , 10:48 PM
did you guys know kris kobach announced he is running for governor.
06-13-2017 , 11:00 PM
Of Kansas?
06-13-2017 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
Of Kansas?
yeah with trump as my president, kris kobach as my governor and jerry moran as my senator what could go wrong?
06-14-2017 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
I'm saying something closer to what ChrisV is saying: the market and its incentives are creating conditions that degrade human dignity. It's not just firms and big airlines that are guilty, and it's not first class passengers sneering at people in coach, but all of our collective actions in trading and how we all behave in this environment with extreme downward pressure on fares while firms simultaneously get consumers to pay to escape misery.
I definitely wasn't coming to those sort of crypto-Marxist conclusions though (you filthy communist). I'm fine with the way the airline industry operates. I'm satisfied that what people want is the lower possible fares and that the sort of price targeting airlines do ("For just $30 upgrade to legroom that will fit normal human legs!") is the means they use to accomplish what people want.

It's notable that other service industries do not operate that way. We're not all staying in horrible hotels with "Upgrade your bed to bedbug-free for only $50!" options. Hotels tend to compete on service and quality just as much as price, because again, that turns out to be what people want.

If your point is more "yes, but just blind provision of 'what people want' degrades and cheapens human existence" then sure, but that's a feature of capitalism writ large and I'm skeptical of the ability of regulation to fix it in every instance. The airline industry also probably wouldn't be in my top 1000 examples of that problem, and in the scheme of things is pretty minor. Most people don't fly often. It's not like regulations designed to make workplaces more pleasant, which affect people's day to day lives.
06-14-2017 , 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
I definitely wasn't coming to those sort of crypto-Marxist conclusions though (you filthy communist). I'm fine with the way the airline industry operates. I'm satisfied that what people want is the lower possible fares and that the sort of price targeting airlines do ("For just $30 upgrade to legroom that will fit normal human legs!") is the means they use to accomplish what people want.

It's notable that other service industries do not operate that way. We're not all staying in horrible hotels with "Upgrade your bed to bedbug-free for only $50!" options. Hotels tend to compete on service and quality just as much as price, because again, that turns out to be what people want.

If your point is more "yes, but just blind provision of 'what people want' degrades and cheapens human existence" then sure, but that's a feature of capitalism writ large and I'm skeptical of the ability of regulation to fix it in every instance. The airline industry also probably wouldn't be in my top 1000 examples of that problem, and in the scheme of things is pretty minor. Most people don't fly often. It's not like regulations designed to make workplaces more pleasant, which affect people's day to day lives.
It was that (in the original thread) and United beating the piss out of their passengers was, I thought, a great example of the bolded since some would deny it.

Also I disagree that while we're maybe you and I aren't staying in horrible hotels with "Upgrade your bed to bedbug-free for only $50!" options, that actually is pretty much how the hotel industry and other service industries operate. It's just that the airlines are extremely transparent and unscrupulous about it.

But the fact that firms compete on service and price and they are correlated is a trite truism and not worth talking about. Maybe I'm strawmanning but I suspect there's a form of cheap, filthy communist type talking points that might decry the Presidential Suite and business class because they are unequal, but I want to make sure it's clear that I'm not talking about that. The only point worth making here is that the price can go so low that the service veers to degrading; or that industries like airlines will market bait-and-switch rates to entice naive consumers, and create an incentive for consumers (naive and savvy alike) to purchase their way out of the miserable environment firms intentionally set out to create so they could advertise low rates. Or that firms can market such that people might engage in extremely unsavory behaviors for the opportunity to get goods/services extremely cheaply, or will violently lash out to protect a perceived good deal.

I come with no grand solution to any of that, and perhaps not even to insist we solve it. Only to note that market orthodox types will simply deny the condition itself. They argue that by providing what people want, the transaction is prima facie morally exculpatory, the market worked, quit complaining, and if there was anything wrong with this, consumers would walk away. My retort is glib of course but airlines provide very very easy targets to deconstruct this idea. When we see people barbarically battling it out of overhead space or to board first, we should see the fallacy here. No, they won't walk away, they may simply violently battle over the scraps of comfort made available to them, and commercial airlines practices like baggage fees create a host of negative externalities like extra wait times to get through security which increase passenger stress and wasted time and the like.

Last edited by DVaut1; 06-14-2017 at 05:00 AM.
06-14-2017 , 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
One of you guys is a contractor, right? Any advice on whether I should freak out about a crack in my apartment's ceiling?
Crosspost to the Trump's America thread imo.
06-14-2017 , 11:18 AM
That would be more if he was looking to stiff a contractor.
06-14-2017 , 11:58 AM
Hells yeah. Lock these ****ers up.

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Michigan health chief charged with involuntary manslaughter in Flint water probe
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsne...-manslaughter/
06-14-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
yeah with trump as my president, kris kobach as my governor and jerry moran as my senator what could go wrong?
Honey, you gots ta get outta there!
06-14-2017 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
One of you guys is a contractor, right? Any advice on whether I should freak out about a crack in my apartment's ceiling?
Not sure what there is to freak out about considering you're renting. If it is a newer apartment then it could be that the complex is just settling a bit. Cracks that follow the joints is usually a sign of this.
06-14-2017 , 02:42 PM
Yea I assume all the people complaining about the horrors of airplanes are elitists who have never taken any other mode of transportation like a bus, train, subway or even a taxi. If you've been spoiled by Uber and your Priuses and Teslas, you might not realize that air conditioning and free drinks/peanuts is an all-things-considered respectable way to travel, but don't start a full on attack on capitalism because you're not guaranteed reclining leather seats and a free massage.

Note to the marxists: The easily worst thing about flying is having to arrive to the airport 2 hours before and the silly TSA protocols that don't actually protect us from anything, both of which are caused by the big R-word.
06-14-2017 , 02:45 PM
Are there even any Marxists anywhere in this thread? So wierd. It's like randomly saying "and to all you scientologists" when you're talking about apples.
06-14-2017 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.
Yea I assume all the people complaining about the horrors of airplanes are elitists who have never taken any other mode of transportation like a bus, train, subway or even a taxi.
How many people do you think have ever lived in a big city and aren't 4/4 on this list?
06-14-2017 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Are there even any Marxists anywhere in this thread? So wierd. It's like randomly saying "and to all you scientologists" when you're talking about apples.
Liberal has lost its power. Need to be more hyperbolic.
06-14-2017 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
How many people do you think have ever lived in a big city and aren't 4/4 on this list?
A long distance bus trip is a different thing that will divide by class. Among the many surprises, the high % of passengers smoking at every stop.

      
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