This really is incredible and literally insane. The amount of strength and focus it takes to accomplish that is incomprehensible to me (I got into rock climbing my last year of law school, and climbed nearly every day).

Every profile of that Honnold guy is insanely good I'd recommend just googling his name and reading ****. The whole free-climbing culture is absolutely bananas.

The Inefficiencies of Construction and the Politics of Infrastructure:

https://www.adamtooze.com/2017/06/06...nfrastructure/

was reading something about the cost of climbing everest today - if you only spend $20k/person, you're probably going to die.

So Glenn Greenwald's paper may have accidentally outed the NSA leaker?

GJGE

"accidentally." Glenn is a known Russian apologist and has made clear which side he is on between the deranged, maniacal Donald Trump and the patriots in the intelligence community.

https://www.democracynow.org/2017/2/..._deep_state_to

Stupid of this woman to have trusted him, but no surprise "Reality Winner" isn't the brightest bulb.

This post is taking "conspiracy theory" to absolutely bonkers levels. Glenn Greenwald knowingly burned a source to get arrested by the government because the leaker dared to challenge Russia?

Listen to yourself. Jesus.

In any case, since both of the last two posters are bad at providing links, here's one explaining the story (which is interesting).

This might have made the job easier for the NSA, but at the same time, she wasn't doing herself any favors by putting herself in a position where she was in a group of only 6 people who printed out that document at work.

Your link claims it was Glenn's stupidity that outed her, I'm willing to concede that he could be doing Putin's bidding mostly out of idiocy. “People who go along a treasonous path do not know they are on a treasonous path until it is too late.”

The other thing is that the Intercept didn't have to include pictures of the printed pages in first place. Don't usually see that in NY Times and Washington Post articles, guess that Glenn thinks that not including pics would make idiots like himself say its fake news as he often does with other journalists. GJGE

Btw, an Intercept reporter also told another NSA employee that the letter they got was postmarked from Augusta, GA.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.90a19f3fb0ee

The line between staggering incompetency and malicious intent is hard to draw.

The link I provided about the story referenced an incident where the NYT ****ed up their redactions in a PDF they posted from the Snowden disclosures, but I guess it doesn't really jive with your "Intercept is criminally negligent, but all other news outlets are solid" narrative here, does it?

It's amazing how much tribalism causes people to completely turn their brains off. For example, Pwn (and Noodle above, calling it "Glenn's paper") are utterly determined to place this ****up squarely on Greewnald, who did not work on this story and based on the technological competence he displayed in Citizenfour, I'm guessing he also does not run opsec for The Intercept. It's just so, so weird that his name got put front and center into this story as posted by certain 2+2 members...

All the Intercept revealed was that the docs had been printed out at the gov't site, the NSA figured everything out from that. Hardly seems like he was intentionally burning anyone.

You are right, Glenn still sucks though. So do his Twitter takes on this report.

Really don't get the hero worship of Glenn Greenwald at all.

Guy's been likening the Russia Probe to "McCarthyism" for a while now ffs (at least until his own site gets a scoop). Hates when journalists use anonymous sources (at least until his own site gets a scoop). He may be a good journalist but he's a huge hypocrite as well and denying that is simply denying reality.

That said, I don't blame him personally for getting his source outed, she did a lot of that on her own, but does she get arrested if they don't post the image rather than simply quoting from the intel?

(ETA: Plus he's already stated that he did not edit nor write that article and someone else there did)

I heard the pretty countryside
had been paved down the middle
by a government that had no pride

How many more years do I endure driving by this enormous rebel flag flapping over a stretch of freeway I frequent before I start concocting a plot to burn it down?



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Lol at hero worship GG. No one mentions his name other than to call him a traitor or worse and then anyone who questions that is hero worshipping.

I haven't been on the Twitters much lately so I'm not totally familiar with his recent takes, but this one at least I think is a bit more nuanced - this is a long-held belief of his stemming from things like anonymous government officials responding to requests for comment by giving sweeping (but anonymous, so they can't be challenged) pro-government responses to things like "did the Bush administration torture people" or "did the Obama administration drone a wedding". And on issues like those, very often the anonymous officials would turn out to be FOS.

Nowadays, though, anonymous sources are back in fashion because they're mostly dumping on Trump and we love that. It's a bit of a different dynamic for sure - "help us, my boss is going to destroy this country" anonymous leaks are probably a bit more reliable than "hey my boss is just the greatest guy in the world, isn't he?" anonymous leaks - but Greenwald is still very much about his principles.

For this particular story (re: "at least until his own site gets a scoop") I would note that the source wasn't the anonymous (until yesterday) leaker, but rather the document itself.

i glanced over the first half a bit, but the second half is really good.

another thing is the us is somewhat isolated from the rest of the world. i visited some family outside of boston last year and there was actually plenty of regional railroad. it just hardly ever ran and the service was terrible. if people were aware of how the s-bahn worked in any decent german city they would riot. and if the planning authorities had been better/stronger they would probably have built fewer rail lines but better functioning ones with a section through the city centre and out again on the other side.

just dont get yourself killed in the process. the jury is going to acquit him

If I'm understanding the story, it sounds like The Intercept not only revealed it was printed at a government site, but at a specific government site (Augusta GA) which basically pointed to the location of the leaker.

I'm not saying The Intercept intentionally burned the source but if I have the correct read (that The Intercept reporter, in going to verify the report with a separate contact, took a photo of the report that made it trivial to find where it was printed) -- that's a pretty serious bungling for an entity whose raison d'etre is to be a safe space to leak documents. I mean mistakes happen but it seems like it's one of those cases where the difference between incompetency and malicious intent is hard to draw; and at least questioning what The Intercept reporter did is a worthy line. Insert 'You Had One Job' meme here. I don't think TI comes out looking good from this based on the info that's out there now. Maybe future details will reveal more.

None of this has anything to do with Greenwald imo as I assume he didn't really participate deeply in the creation or editing of the story.

Yeah, TI is probably not a likely future destination for leakers now.

luv 2b a liberal. no weird conspiracy theorists over here

Think the WaPo story covers it well, top to bottom:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.08bbc31b4756

Mistake 1: tried to verify with the wrong source who shouldn't have been trusted, or did it in such a way that frightened the source into reporting the leak for fear of themselves becoming criminally liable
Mistake 2: letting the contractor know that the report came from Augusta; basically outs the leaker or narrows it down to a very small number of people

Still, perhaps some shared blame...:

...sounds like the leaker has some responsibility for not knowing how to do this well either.

So I dunno. Deep state, man. In the end:

It really is. I think like every major free-climbing star has wound up dead from a fall.

Peter Croft and John Long both still with us. Also Hot Henry Barber who was one of the original free soloists.