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Yeah I forgot about Global Poker and I like, barely studied it, but isn't it still some sort of crypto currency thing?:

Never played or downloaded the client or studied it for more than 5 minutes but that still doesn't feel THAT fluid. Seems like a derivation on those subscription online poker clubs (e.g., ClubWPT.com) where everyone pays $50/month or something for tokens, the tokens are used to enter tournaments and then the payouts are cash, but it's ultimately a closed ecosystem and fish can't get money in and ergo there's no way to really profit long term.

Obviously here you can ostensibly deposit but just on very first blush it feels like the whole "buy our virtual currency where you play and win more crypto currency which is then exchanged for $wee$ca$h! which then you get actual money for!" is still a bridge too far for most people to really enjoy casually. I dunno, this is perhaps a very uninformed hottake but I think this model has been around for a while.

They make it sound far more convoluted than it is. Basically you have a play money account (gold coins) and a real money account (sweeps cash). The way they implement the sweepstakes thing to stay legal involves "buying" lol gold coins, but you're really just depositing hard cash which you then play with, and hopefully withdraw. There are no complicated conversions to do or subscriptions or any of that.

They also give you $2 sweeps for free just for opening an account. If you've been missing online poker, give it a whirl. Slick HTML5 interface, no client download, large player pool. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

07-24-2017 , 08:53 AM

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Trolly McTrollson

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Seems interesting, but the player pool looks to be small plus I'm too busy playing Gwent to get back into online pokerz.

07-24-2017 , 09:09 AM

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zikzak

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These are the real money tables at 9:00 AM EDT on a Monday morning, for a site that's effectively only available to people in the US and Canada.

07-24-2017 , 09:10 AM

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Riverman

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When I was in undergrad and had infinity time and a few thousand dollars was a fortune online poker seemed fun. Even if you magically brought back 2002 Party Poker I'd probably never play.

07-24-2017 , 09:38 AM

#1080

Trolly McTrollson

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No Russia fish? Meh.

07-24-2017 , 10:28 AM

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SuperUberBob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

When I was in undergrad and had infinity time and a few thousand dollars was a fortune online poker seemed fun. Even if you magically brought back 2002 Party Poker I'd probably never play.

This.

To me it's an unhealthy lifestyle.

07-24-2017 , 10:40 AM

#1082

TrollyWantACracker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

When I was in undergrad and had infinity time and a few thousand dollars was a fortune online poker seemed fun. Even if you magically brought back 2002 Party Poker I'd probably never play.

Bingo. Call me when parachute pants make a comeback, then we'll talk.

07-24-2017 , 10:44 AM

#1083

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by zikzak

I'm almost hoping for a draconian crackdown on pot. I don't smoke, but I know a lot of Trumpkins do.

You, uh, actually think Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third would arrest a white person for pot?

07-24-2017 , 10:44 AM

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simplicitus

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At least Poland didn't go full on derptastic.

Poland’s President Vetoes 2 Proposed Laws Limiting Courts’ Independence

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/24/w...urts.html?_r=0

07-24-2017 , 10:45 AM

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simplicitus

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

You, uh, actually think Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third would arrest a white person for pot?

If the person had long hair he would.

07-24-2017 , 10:56 AM

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bobman0330

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

You, uh, actually think Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third would arrest a white person for pot?

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to MARGINALIZED PEOPLES ONLY CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE."

-Woke MLK

07-24-2017 , 10:58 AM

#1087

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by simplicitus

If the person had long hair he would.

I do believe you are neglecting some real Murican coiffeury

Spoiler:

07-24-2017 , 10:59 AM

#1088

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by bobman0330

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to MARGINALIZED PEOPLES ONLY CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE."

-Woke MLK

I, uh, guess I'm not sure why I am getting zinged here. My only thesis is that some pot arrests aren't going to wake up Trumpkins, because they won't be affected. Obviously the policy is terrible no matter who it arrests.

07-24-2017 , 11:26 AM

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zikzak

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

This.

To me it's an unhealthy lifestyle.

I play for cheeseburgers and lulz and the random donkament cash. Poker never came anywhere close to being a lifestyle for me.

I gather some of y'all went a bit too deep.

07-24-2017 , 11:28 AM

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zikzak

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

You, uh, actually think Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third would arrest a white person for pot?

I was thinking more along the lines of shutting down medicinal and recreational operations in states where they're legal.

07-24-2017 , 11:32 AM

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FlyWf

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All of those states voted for Hillary already, though, they aren't Real America

07-24-2017 , 11:40 AM

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ICE in the Trump age

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The agent’s decision to allow me to write about our conversations came after learning that ice was making a push, beginning this week, to arrest young undocumented immigrants who were part of a large wave of unaccompanied minors who crossed the border in recent years and who, until now, had been allowed to live in the U.S. Rather than detaining these young people, the government had placed them in the care of families around the country. Most of them are trying to lead new lives as American transplants, going to school and working. ice now plans to pursue those who have turned eighteen since crossing the border, and who, as a result, qualify for detention as legal adults. “I don’t see the point in it,” the agent said. “The plan is to take them back into custody, and then figure it out. I don’t understand it. We’re doing it because we can, and it bothers the hell out of me.”

The agent went on, “The whole idea is targeting kids. I know that technically they meet the legal definition of being adults. Fine. But if they were my kids travelling in a foreign country, I wouldn’t be O.K. with this. We’re not doing what we tell people we do. If you look next month, or at the end of this month, at the people in custody, it’s people who’ve been here for years. They’re supposed to be in high school.”

The agent was especially concerned about a new policy that allows ice to investigate cases of immigrants who may have paid smugglers to bring their children or relatives into the country. ice considers these family members guilty of placing children “directly in harm’s way,” as one spokeswoman recently put it, and the agency will hold them “accountable for their role in these conspiracies.” According to ice, these measures will help combat “a constant humanitarian threat,” but the agent said that rationale was just a pretext to increase arrests and eventually deport more people. “We seem to be targeting the most vulnerable people, not the worst.” The agent also believes that the policy will make it harder for the government to handle unaccompanied children who show up at the border. “You’re going to have kids stuck in detention because parents are too scared of being prosecuted to want to pick them up!” the agent said.

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Before this year, the agent had never spoken to the media. “I have a couple of colleagues that I can kind of talk to, but not many,” the agent said. “This has been a difficult year for many of us.” These people, not just at ice but also at other federal agencies tasked with enforcing the nation’s immigration laws, are “trying to figure out how to minimize the damage.” It isn’t clear what, exactly, they can do under the circumstances. “Immigration is a pendulum—it swings to the left sometimes, or it swings to the right,” the agent told me last week. “But there was a normal range. Now people are bringing their own opinions into work.” In the agent’s view, ice is a changed agency.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...era-speaks-out

07-24-2017 , 12:03 PM

#1093

bobman0330

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

White people, especially poor whites, go to jail for drugs all the time.

07-24-2017 , 12:07 PM

#1094

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by bobman0330

White people, especially poor whites, go to jail for drugs all the time.

Of course.

07-24-2017 , 12:22 PM

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batair

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

Other than DFS and maybe some horse racing and lottery, where can you easily gamble online in the US? DFS is teetering anyway, may collapse without any intervention at all.

Obviously I realize that Americans can get accounts on Bovada and ACR for pokers and 5dimes for sports, etc., but it's a pain and the transactions aren't fluid. The online gambling market in the US with the exception of DFS is still relatively barren and mostly prohibited compared to the rest of the industrialized world.

That is to say: what's really left for the American government to do to crack down on online gambling?

Those ones you mentioned like Bovada and ACR. I understand it would not make much of a difference big picture wise (and ideals wise i would not like it) but it would still be somewhat satisfying seeing the reaction on here.

There could also be an unlikely bigger threat. Focus on the family and the rest of the anti gambling folk did not just want to stop with online gambling. With Pence and Sessions and some others in the cabinet you never know.

07-24-2017 , 12:26 PM

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Doubt the outrage would be that great if Bovada or ACR and the handful of other rooms that still take US customers went down. Pretty sure everyone still playing in the US realizes we've all been through this before, it's a gray market, and regulators are fickle. In any case, don't think those rooms really generate much traffic.

07-24-2017 , 12:29 PM

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batair

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meh there are some on 2p2 who would get their knickers bunched. I get that overall not so much of a big deal.

07-24-2017 , 12:33 PM

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zikzak

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Coin flip which way Mason goes if it happens. I can easily see him try to rationalize it as a good thing.

07-24-2017 , 04:43 PM

#1099

ScreaminAsian

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

the nj legislature passed a measure or some kind of nonbinding resolution just the other day to plead with the USDOJ to not move to shut down their existing online gambling, listing all the positive benefits it brought to their economy. so they don't feel they're totally secure yet. plus the supreme court is going to hear their case for legalizing sports betting later this year.

07-24-2017 , 04:44 PM

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ScreaminAsian

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Originally Posted by aflametotheground

Rumors have it that tillerson is frustrated and might do a Rexit before year end. He was supposedly hoping to do at least a year in the admin but the sources are not surprised if he quits before that.

lol rexit

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