I think his response to "but you're helping Republicans by being critical of Democrats" would be "**** you". Like, you can just write off all honest journalism forever if we decide that you can't criticize one thing without that making you pro-the-opposite-thing.

He doesn't support Trump, at all, but it's his fault that people think he does because he doesn't write "Russia is awful" in every article he writes criticizing bad reporting? Awful.

Maybe it's better that a journalist's image should be based on his respect for integrity and truthtelling, regardless of which positions those truths may or may not support.

Now that team SMP has ANOTHER forum to control, can we exile their crew finally?

There will be no tone policing.

There will be rules. I've posted a stickie now.

It will hopefully be fun.

I'm sure you will be welcomed to post in the new PU, LK, so long as you follow the forum rules. And no doubt you, like many others threatened by competition, will attempt to sabotage Chezlaw and get Mat to demod him with your twisted games. Let's hope Mat continues to see through your typical BS.

You're right to feel threatened, btw, as this forum has been filled with the sort of reflexive tribal anti-reasoning spouted by SUB that diminishes arguments and smears arguers based on their perceived direction instead of merit for all too long. A forum that succeeds in avoiding that alone will no doubt be superior in every important way. I'm not holding my breath, but here's to Mat, Chez, better arguments, and better years!

"The forum will have a PC bias"
"Posters will not have to be overly concerned about getting temp bans from the rest of their 2+2 activities if they get carried away here"
"Time outs lengths will increase in length and scope for repeat offenders but they will not be subject to any extra rules or restrictions when the time outs end"

lol yeah this is gonna go great

FoldN been sabotaging this forum and PU since his racist hero took his ball and went home, and now already complaining about the mere possibility of this happening in PU.

No temp bans in PU, just "time outs" lolz.

If somebody read my posts and claimed that I was a Trump supporter, I would probably take offense to it and address the spreading accusation before it becomes my identity.

Speaking of construing my posts...

Lawl. Oh my word this post is so sad

I think there was a lot of faith put into the GOTV operation that would result in her outperforming her the polls. Assumed competency that turned out to be unwarranted.

He retweets idiots all the time accusing him of being a Trump slappy (or an Obama slappy, or a Clinton slappy, or a Sanders slappy, depending what his latest article is) and tells them they're idiots, but it's his fault that idiots are still idiots?

You don't want him to "address the spreading accusation" by telling people they're wrong, you want him to "address" it by ceasing to write articles critical of those you view as opposed to Trump. And his response to that would be, again, "**** you".

-George Orwell, The Freedom of the Press

Not that anyone's calling for Greenwald to take a few hot ones to the grape, and not that I don't even think his jeremiads are more than a little histrionic, but yeah, people need to realise that honest criticism is not the same as enmity.

I don't use Twitter. Hence did not know.

No.

I haven't read your full exchange, so apologies if I've missed some context. But from what I read, your argument sounds a lot like Suzzer's overly nannyish plea against truth here, where he tries to claim there are simply some facts we shouldn't trust people to utter, for fear they may be missused by the wrong side in nefarious, even violent ways. He seems unaware that that's the same line used by right wingers every day to squelch their opponents' arguments, for instance against BLM and the subsequent uptick in murders of cops.

No it isn't like that.

Admittedly, further discussion and exploration has softened my feelings on the initial comments I made though. Wouldn't be much discussion if I didn't improve or learn anything from it.

Katie Hopkins is sort of an English Michelle Malkin. Let's see what she's up to on Twitter these days:


Oh yeah 2017 off to a great start

Look at her hair, those glasses. Clearly a lib false flag op.

goofy is definitely right. Ive read Greenwald for a long time and continue to do so in spite of his histrionics and tendency to run way long because I trust that hes not anyones partisan hack or slappy. I strongly disagree with him about Russia, Snowden, Assange and a lot of other things, but I trust that hes been honestly arguing. Bob your argument is literally an extension of the argument during the late primary season that since we knew Hillary was the nominee, Bernie and his supporters were "objectively" helping Trump.

Actually funny.

Unchained is now chez land. Literally.

Can i resurrect my bread forum?

Rye with caraway seeds or without? Discuss the pros and cons.

Gogogogo

"Please," said the Father. "Please. Try to understand. You are always with me. Everything I have is yours, but it is right to celebrate. Your brother chez was dead, and is alive again!" "He was lost, and is found in politics unchained."

Seeds don't agree with my stomach, no matter how tasty.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/62...-bread-420815/

Lol, I had forgotten about this