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01-19-2009, 11:47 AM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread - including BONUS "what will he say" contest!!!
"Honestly I was just here for Bon Jovi....."
*smacks the mic down and walks away*
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01-19-2009, 11:50 AM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Other questions for inquiring minds: does anyone know if Bush is legally entitled to collect unemployment now?
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I don't have a link, but I was under the impression that he would continue to collect some kind of lifetime pension.
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01-19-2009, 11:52 AM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread
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Other questions for inquiring minds: does anyone know if Bush is legally entitled to collect unemployment now?
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Pretty sure ex-Presidents get a pension.
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01-19-2009, 11:52 AM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread - including BONUS "what will he say" contest!!!
"We didn't get into this situation overnight, and we're not going to get out of it overnight."
With the possible exception of the word "situation," I'm relatively sure he will say this verbatim.
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01-19-2009, 11:52 AM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread - including BONUS "what will he say" contest!!!
What speech should I dub over Obama? ( reference)
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01-19-2009, 11:54 AM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Other questions for inquiring minds: does anyone know if Bush is legally entitled to collect unemployment now?
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Eligibility for Texas Unemployment Benefits
The basic requirements for collecting unemployment are:
You must have been employed. The Texas Workforce Commission publishes requirements for wages earned or time worked during an established period of time referred to as a "base period."
You must be determined to be unemployed through no fault of your own as defined under Texas law.
You must file ongoing claims and respond to questions concerning your continued eligibility. You must report any earnings from work and any job offers or refusal of work during any claim period.
Meet any other unemployment eligibility requirements of Texas law.
Looks like he will be eligible.
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01-19-2009, 11:55 AM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread - including BONUS "what will he say" contest!!!
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01-19-2009, 11:59 AM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread - including BONUS "what will he say" contest!!!
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In addition to a pension, the 1958 Former Presidents Act provides past presidents with support staff, office space, travel funds, and mailing privileges. The legislation aims “to maintain the dignity of that great office” and to prevent an expresident from engaging “in business or [an] occupation which would demean the office he has held or capitalize upon it in any way deemed improper.”
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Without the pension, Bush would be forced into the horse porn industry imo
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01-19-2009, 12:03 PM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread - including BONUS "what will he say" contest!!!
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Couple funny writing errors in there.
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On average, former Presidents who have subsequently died lived 12 years
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Umm... hm.
Also I had no idea getting relected secures health benefits.
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Bush is also eligible for health benefits for life. Single term Presidents George H. W. Bush and Carter do not qualify for federally funded health benefits, according to a General Services Administration legal opinion. But two-term Presidents George W. Bush and Clinton are entitled to enroll in the group health plans available to federal employees.
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01-19-2009, 12:04 PM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread - including BONUS "what will he say" contest!!!
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From that link:
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Bush is also eligible for health benefits for life. Single term Presidents George H. W. Bush and Carter do not qualify for federally funded health benefits, according to a General Services Administration legal opinion. But two-term Presidents George W. Bush and Clinton are entitled to enroll in the group health plans available to federal employees.
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Good thing we make that distinction. Some might consider it wasteful to give one-term ex-presidents health care for life.
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01-19-2009, 12:05 PM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread - including BONUS "what will he say" contest!!!
[ snark ]
At least when he promises to "protect and defend the Constitution", he won't have his fingers crossed like Dubya did.
[ /snark ]
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01-19-2009, 12:08 PM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread - including BONUS "what will he say" contest!!!
Per wikipedia:
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Once out of office, Truman quickly decided that he did not wish to be on any corporate payroll, believing that taking advantage of such financial opportunities would diminish the integrity of the nation's highest office. He also turned down numerous offers for commercial endorsements. Since his earlier business ventures had proved unremunerative, he had no personal savings. As a result, he faced financial challenges. Once Truman left the White House, his only income was his old army pension: $112.56 per month. Former members of Congress and the federal courts received a federal retirement package; President Truman himself had ensured that former servants of the executive branch of government would receive similar support. In 1953, however, there was no such benefit package for former presidents.
He took out a personal loan from a Missouri bank shortly after leaving office, and then set about establishing another precedent for future former chief executives: a book deal for his memoirs of his time in office. Ulysses S. Grant had overcome similar financial issues with his own memoirs, but the book had been published posthumously, and he had declined to write about life in the White House in any detail. For the memoirs Truman received only a flat payment of $670,000, and had to pay two-thirds of that in tax; he calculated he got $37,000 after he paid his assistants.
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Truman was quoted in 1957 as saying to then-House Majority Leader John McCormack, "Had it not been for the fact that I was able to sell some property that my brother, sister, and I inherited from our mother, I would practically be on relief, but with the sale of that property I am not financially embarrassed."
In 1958, Congress passed the Former Presidents Act, offering a $25,000 yearly pension to each former president, and it is likely that Truman's financial status played a role in the law's enactment. The one other living former president at the time, Herbert Hoover, also took the pension, even though he did not need the money; reportedly, he did so to avoid embarrassing Truman.
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somewhere an ACist has a single tear running down their cheek at the thought of Hoover taking $25k of teh taxpayer monies he doesn't need just so that Truman wouldn't be embarrassed.
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01-19-2009, 12:09 PM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread - including BONUS "what will he say" contest!!!
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Originally Posted by Wynton
Good thing we make that distinction. Some might consider it wasteful to give one-term ex-presidents health care for life.
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i loled
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01-19-2009, 12:10 PM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread - including BONUS "what will he say" contest!!!
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Good thing we make that distinction. Some might consider it wasteful to give one-term ex-presidents health care for life.
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If these bums wanted free health care they should try winning reelection imo, we don't subsidize failure in these parts
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01-19-2009, 12:10 PM
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Re: Inauguration Sweat Thread - including BONUS "what will he say" contest!!!
Two score and seven years ago my father(s?) brought forth on this continent a new Messiah, conceived in Kenya, or Hawaii, or somewhere, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal, unless they’re rich or successful. And where they are not equal it is the job of the Government to make them equal.
Now we are engaged in a great depression. Not The Great Depression, but the next closest thing. And I plan on testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated to capitalism and personal freedom, can long endure. We are met on a great big open area in front of the Capitol building. Many of you have come to dedicate your lives to The One. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow Me, anymore than you have already done. The brave men and women of the press who struggled to get me elected, have consecrated it, far above your poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we do here over the next four years, but it can never forget what I say here, for I am The One. It is for us the Government, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work of total Government control which in years past we could only partially advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us- that we take increased devotion to that cause for which you have elected Me—that we here highly resolve that dead ideas and ideals shall not have died in vain—that this nation, shall have a new birth of freedom–Where my wife, for the first time in her life, can be proud to be an American—and that government of the Government, by the elected who know better, for the control of all power, shall not perish from the earth.
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