You say that like the police officers don't know how to answer a question...They do. They're just scum and they're trained to be scum.

When your asked 6x a yes or no question like "Am I forced to answer this question?" and you don't answer it...You're not failing to communicate. You're abusing your privileges.

This can't be posted enough:

Don't talk to the police: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQ...eature=related

Very good. Thought it was something I'd seen, but it wasn't.

"...the suspect refused to consent to a search of the vehicle. At that point, I brought my head close to the open drivers side window and detected a faint odor of marijuana..."

If you google Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act or CAFRA you'll probably find many horror stories of government seizing cash.

The rub is that it usually takes so much money to fight the seizure that people generally settle with the government and give up some of their money. Ridiculous. Land of the free

Yes, this does happen, but the problem is that people are too stupid to know how to handle the situation.

If a cop says this just reply with "I don't smell anything Officer." If he still says he's going to search, tell him you don't give consent and if he goes ahead then he's stupid. There is a decent chance it won't hold up in court.

What usually happens though, is that people give some tacit consent and they when he finds something they admit it's theirs or try and talk their way out of it.

1. Don't ever give consent
2. If they find something, don't talk, say: "I have nothing to say at this time." AND NOTHING ELSE. Nothing you say will help you.
3. Get a lawyer

Wait for your day in court. It will go much better for you. But as I said, people like to talk and that's what get's them in trouble.

If you have marijuana in your car or a lot of alcohol and you're pulled over and they say we're going to check your car....

What is the best response so they either won't check ur car or if they did, it wouldn't stand in court?

If its not in plain sight theres a good chance they won't search your car if you tell them you don't consent to any searches. Just guessing but I wouldn't be surprised if 90%+ of searches on cars are consensual.

You should watch BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters if you haven't already. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjM...e=channel_page

$kill game,

did you not read this thread?

I'm watching some show about marijuana with Al Roker on MSNBC. He was talking to a cop about growing operations in houses in neighborhoods in Florida. He took Al on some operation he called a "knock and ..." something..can't remember specifically but he said they just go knock on random doors and ask if they can search their homes. Al was obviously suspicious of how effective it is, so he asked the cop if people actually let them search their houses if they're growing weed...the cop said they actually find a lot of growing operations that way. He said that he thinks the people just automatically assume the cops are already onto them.

relevant post from hsnl:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...velers-398198/

3rd time this has been posted itt

"Is it illegal to carry too much cash?"


yes

really? i wasn't aware of this, what's the legal limit?

LOL Too true--both when it comes to talking to the police & in Poker!!!

Recently I was playing 2/5NL in a home game. I flop two pair but there's a straight draw & two diamonds on board, so I bet 2/3 of the pot--one guy calls.

The turn comes a blank & I bet about half the pot--again he calls.

On the river a 3rd diamond shows up; I check and he goes all-in for an additional $200.

I told him "Take $100 back and I'll call you", but he doesn't say anything.

So I lean closer, look him in the eye and calmy say, "Listen, I don't wanna' call $200. If you take $100 back I'll call $100, but $200 is too much. If you want me to call take $100 back."

Guy quietly says, "If you want to see my hand it's gonna' cost you $200."

At that point I immediately call, at which point he lets out a disgusted sigh & mucks his cards. Later he said that he was open ended on the flop, but when his straight didn't show up he correctly figured that the only way to win was to represent the flush.

I play pretty tight--had the guy kept his mouth shut I likely would have folded!

Moral of the story? NEVER TALK!!

Incidentally, I was playing on Thursday, and a speech helped me get away with a 6 high bluff.

speech got me laid once.

I was just drunk, dude.

Has anyone confirmed that this OP actually happened? Like, other than it was reported on Faux News?

Remember the "O" scarface girl?

I'm not saying I think this is fake in any way, shape, or form, but has anyone given any thought to the idea that maybe this story is bs? Or has it broken on other media outlets/been confirmed to be true?

I don't see why this would be fake. Faux news is a credible organization, biased obviously, but credible. Generally, if its reported on CNN, Fox, MSNBC or the BBC I expect it to be credible.

Anyways, does this story actually surprise you? People getting harassed at airports is pretty standard, though, admittedly its usually brown people.

unless you think the audio clip posted is staged, i dont see how you can come to the conclusion that it's a false story

The only coverage I've seen about this was the Fox clip. Granted, I didn't look anywhere else on it because I never doubted that it was true, but the thought did cross my mind today that it's possible it might not be, unless there had been some proof, like dude's plane ticket/itinerary (sp) / id'ing of the people involved.

Again, not setting off my bs meter like the O face girl, but I'd hate to assume it's true just cuz it's so plausible and sounds like situations I've had with police before.

no can you remind me ???

Guilty until proven innocent. It's the American way.

Here's the full audio of the encounter -
http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2009/...-st-louis-tsa/

At the end, the FBI agent says "is this money for Congressman Ron Paul", Steve responds yes, the FBI agent instantly says "you are free to leave" and then the TSA agent objects, saying Steve has to stay, that he's still suspicious and that he's calling his boss. The FBI guy then objects and says he doesn't find Steve suspicious. Finally the TSA guy lets him go.

The cash was in a box with checks made out to Ron Paul and Campaign for Liberty. You had to be clueless or stupid not to be able to figure it out.

Also, Steve is a fundamentalist Christian, clean cut, blue blazer wearing most non-suspicious person you could imagine.

For the TSA agents to knowingly say to an employee of a US Congressman that the cash and checks made to said Congressman are suspicious and threaten the use of the DEA and force him against his will is a violation of US law.

Specifically it violates the Organic Law of the United States, listed in the US Code. The government has no right to ask how much money we have, where it's from or who we work for. As Judge Napolitano said, they only have the authority to search for guns/weapons/etc that could cause actual harm.

The TSA agents are clueless people who have been taught that centralization of power always helps society regardless of its conflict with Natural Rights and that truth is relative. They should be arrested and indicted for what essentially is tantamount to treason.

Ask viffer if he thinks his natural rights were violated. If so, it's the legal duty of every citizen to "alter or abolish" such a government.