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02-06-2012, 04:27 AM
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old hand
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
This thread is hilarious. Will one of the worst presidents in our history grow a pair? Let's hope not. We're ****ed enough as it is.
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02-06-2012, 05:00 AM
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#122
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
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Originally Posted by tzwien
This thread is hilarious. Will an above average presidents in our history grow a pair? It has nothing to do with lacking a pair.
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02-06-2012, 09:37 AM
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#123
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King Emeritus
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
Grunching...
yeah, he'll grow a pair and invade iran. and drone more US citizens.
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02-06-2012, 01:14 PM
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#124
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
If we can stay out of Iran, lower military spending, and repeal the ndaa clauses, I would be pretty okay about him in for another four years.
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02-06-2012, 02:17 PM
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#125
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veteran
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
yeah you have to laugh @ the "one of the worst presidents" line at this point
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02-06-2012, 02:46 PM
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#126
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
There is zero chance America "goes into" Iran (and fwiw i think thats true under Republicans as well as Obama). I think a bombing campaign not too dissimilar to Libya isnt entirely off the table, but Obama made some recent speech saying he wont go to war with Iran if Israel does or something along those lines (which is his separator from Republicans imo).
Its impossible to say what is happening covertly of course, someone is in Iran killing scientists, creating that mega worm that attacked Iranian centrifuges and so on, but all the overt messages is he has no interest in having his own Iraq and his handling of Libya is the perfect example of that.
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02-06-2012, 03:00 PM
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#127
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
I certainly hope that is the worst case scenario. Pulling out of Iraq just to move straight into Iran would be a nightmare.
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02-06-2012, 03:00 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
There is zero chance America "goes into" Iran (and fwiw i think thats true under Republicans as well as Obama). I think a bombing campaign not too dissimilar to Libya isnt entirely off the table, but Obama made some recent speech saying he wont go to war with Iran if Israel does or something along those lines (which is his separator from Republicans imo).
Its impossible to say what is happening covertly of course, someone is in Iran killing scientists, creating that mega worm that attacked Iranian centrifuges and so on, but all the overt messages is he has no interest in having his own Iraq and his handling of Libya is the perfect example of that.
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I don't think the analogy of Libya is the appropriate one. That was a minor operation providing air support for the "rebels" (or a better term for the good guys ). I think the first Gulf War air campaign is a better comparison if our response is to being attacked or the straits being blocked. Iran's military is orders of magnitude more significant than Libya's.
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02-06-2012, 04:11 PM
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#129
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
Oh sure, no disagreement, i meant like Libya in terms of approach avoiding putting Americans in harms way but an Iran operation would be an order of magnitude up the scale.
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02-06-2012, 04:40 PM
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#130
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
Thread title is silly imo. It takes serious balls to drone rescuers and funerals, assert that you have the right to indefinately detain American citizens, etc. and still be willing to show your face in public.
What a disgrace this administration is.
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02-06-2012, 09:04 PM
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#131
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banned
Join Date: May 2007
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Yeah other than Dodd-Frank, the most sweeping financial reform bill since Glass-Steagall, what has he really overseen?
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soooo sweeping. soooo powerful. zero endictments against any wall street CEOs.
Very interesting how you define success
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02-06-2012, 09:38 PM
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Blessed by Pope
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
There is zero chance America "goes into" Iran (and fwiw i think thats true under Republicans as well as Obama). I think a bombing campaign not too dissimilar to Libya isnt entirely off the table, but Obama made some recent speech saying he wont go to war with Iran if Israel does or something along those lines (which is his separator from Republicans imo).
Its impossible to say what is happening covertly of course, someone is in Iran killing scientists, creating that mega worm that attacked Iranian centrifuges and so on, but all the overt messages is he has no interest in having his own Iraq and his handling of Libya is the perfect example of that.
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Except Iran would fight back, and their strength is just slighhhhhhtly greater than Libya
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02-06-2012, 09:41 PM
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Blessed by Pope
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
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Originally Posted by David99
lol @ raising taxes as a means of deficit reduction. the deficit is so massive and government spending is such a big part of gdp that the only reduction of debt will be through inflation.
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ah yes...the House GOP line of thinking
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02-06-2012, 09:42 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
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Originally Posted by todd1007
soooo sweeping. soooo powerful. zero endictments against any wall street CEOs.
Very interesting how you define success
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And what crime do you think wall street CEO's should be indicted for? Ex post facto laws for criminal incompetence?
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02-06-2012, 09:44 PM
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#135
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Blessed by Pope
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Re: If Obama Gets Term #2, Will He Grow a Pair?
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Oh sure, no disagreement, i meant like Libya in terms of approach avoiding putting Americans in harms way but an Iran operation would be an order of magnitude up the scale.
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Phil, I think if any type of attack happens on Iran, Iran will retaliate either directly or indirectly and that will cause things to spiral out of control quite quickly. Hence Obama going so far as to tell Bibi, if you act on your own... "u can go **** yourself" in an election year. Even that I think might be a bluff on Barack's part.
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