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Old 12-19-2010, 04:35 PM   #31
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Extremely disappointing content for a thread an OP titled "I Love Boobies!" posted in the middle of a weekend night US time. I know I'm not the only one who assumed someone got drunk and posted pictures of titties all over the thread.
haha, +1. I was also disappointed.

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Isnt there several specific cases where it was specifically shown in case law that freedom of speech does not extend to slogans on school ground?
SCOTUS has decided several cases relating to speech in schools. The current test is basically:

1. Does the speech violate a school rule?
2. Does the speech have a tendency to interfere with legitimate educational and disciplinary objectives.

It has to be both.*

*"tendency to interfere," is a very low bar, which may have been lowered still more when the Court decided the "bong hits 4 Jesus" case (which held that a student could be suspended for holding up that sign at an off school grounds rally that was sanctioned by the school because the slogan conflicted with the school's anti-drug policy).
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Old 12-19-2010, 06:08 PM   #32
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If I was at the governaments girls had to pull their bra off befor enter in the class room
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:05 PM   #33
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I am typing this on my computer.

Is the above sentence also semi-profane? There is absolutely nothing as in nothing profane about the word "boobies".
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characterized by irreverence or contempt for god or sacred principles or things; irreligious.
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not devoted to holy or religious purposes; unconsecrated; secular ( opposed to sacred).

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unholy; heathen; pagan: profane rites.
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not initiated into religious rites or mysteries, as persons.
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:52 PM   #34
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Not sure why you bolded some stuff and not others, but thanks for proving my point.
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:56 PM   #35
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I kinda agree with nick, actually. It seems to me that we're already at the saturation point for breast cancer awareness, and I would be very surprised if the various campaigns (eg NFL pink shoes, hell, you can get pink GARBAGE CANS in my neighborhood) had any significant affect either on awareness or funding available for research. It's more an exercise in signaling.

That said, I don't have an opinion on the suspension.
I'd bet the impact on funding is actually kind of massive. The "awareness" aspect, less so.
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:56 PM   #36
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Wearing a bracelet that say I love boobies to middle school is not appropriate

I would not be allowed to wear a shirt that says I hate abortion with a picture of an aborted fetus to school
God you are...your mind is not that impressive

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Old 12-19-2010, 08:13 PM   #37
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She should be suspended.

This whole cancer awareness and having walks for everything is just getting ridiculous. Who here is not 'aware' of breast cancer. Burn every yellow bracelet and cancer band. I have had multiple family members die of cancer but i'm not going to devote my life to becoming a cancer whore. Just give some money to research and be done with it.

Also what is with women being obsessed with marathons? Is there any worse form of exercise than running for 20 miles? And then they whine and miss work because of their injuries. Wahhhh maybe your worn down 40 year old body was not meant to run for hours at a time.

Going to have to agree with nick here, same goes for all those gay profile changing campaigns and stuff on facebook and stuff, it's mostly just stupid.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:16 PM   #38
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I'd bet the impact on funding is actually kind of massive. The "awareness" aspect, less so.
The "awareness" aspect is not separable from the "funding impacts." In fact, they're inexorably linked.

This is partly why I think NVE and pvn have their hearts in the wrong place, and I'll grant for the sake of the argument that they're making totally good faith criticisms.

Because even assuming the absolute worst about "cancer awareness whores" self-aggrandizing motives, who cares? The means are not very burdensome (omg, pink socks on my favorite football team ohnoes!!!! Facebook profile changes WTF!!!!! pink garbage cans, I love boobies shirts, bracelets, et al -- the means that people are criticizing here have no real impact on anyone) and (assuming we're correct that the funding impacts are substantial), then the ends are laudable. Even if those ends (increased funding for cancer research) are secondary or lower in the hierarchy to the "cancer awareness whores" who are just signaling or drawing attention to themselves.

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Old 12-19-2010, 08:22 PM   #39
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Many are under the impression that much of the profits go directly to breast cancer research. But the California-based Keep A Breast Foundation says that it mission is to simply promote awareness and education to about breast cancer.

NBC reports that after taking in millions of dollars in 2010, the group has only given out 100,000 in breast-cancer related grants, and much of its profits is sitting in a bank account, unspent.
From theKeep a Breast Foundation - They barely donate any money too research

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The funds raised from donations go to support Keep A Breast education and awareness programs. These unique programs use art and artistic expression to inform young people about methods of prevention, early detection, coping and support. Through these programs Keep A Breast strives to eradicate breast cancer by inspiring young people to adopt lifestyle choices that have long-term health benefits.

Through this support we were able to have our grassroots Traveling Educational Booth on the road for over 250 days in 2010. Due to the tremendous support we have seen in 2010 we are excited to announce a launch of The Keep A Breast Non Toxic Revolution Program in April of 2011 as well as expanding all of our prevention, education and support programs domestically and internationally. You can learn more about all of our programs here on our programs page.

The Keep A Breast Foundation awards grants to leaders and organizations that are taking a stand to make the world a better, healthier place for future generations through alternative care, environmental effects or cutting edge research. In 2010 over $100,000 dollars was donated to research and environmental programs including: The University of California San Diego, California State University -Fresno, Essentially Pink, Bloom Natural Health, The Rack Pack, Teens Turning Green, Environmental Working Group and a unique Green Janitorial Program for schools. Learn more about our 2010 grant winners here.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:23 PM   #40
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After getting burned hard donating to Yele Haiti after the earthquake I am very skeptical.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:29 PM   #41
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Knowing nothing about Keep A Breast or where their money goes -- assuming they're not duplicitous and they're not stealing it or whatever -- "funding for research (for cures or treatments)" is not the exhaustive list of useful things in the world of "money that goes towards cancer" that makes peoples' lives better. For instance:

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These unique programs use art and artistic expression to inform young people about methods of prevention, early detection, coping and support.
Those are useful activities.

Even if they are stealing it or lying or whatever, that has nothing to do with the efficacy of cancer "awareness" in particular, just bad people preying on others.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:29 PM   #42
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A worse form of exercise I would imagine would be to cook and clean and do laundry for someone like you. And yeah, those damn women shouldn't be missing their (non equal paying) work.
They dont get payed equally bc they miss so much work imo
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:32 PM   #43
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Meh, I just don't think "boobies" is appropriate in a school or professional setting period.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:37 PM   #44
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Not sure why you bolded some stuff and not others, but thanks for proving my point.
while an argument can be made that boobies are holy, I don't think one could argue that they aren't common
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:39 PM   #45
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The "awareness" aspect is not separable from the "funding impacts." In fact, they're inexorably linked.
Agree entirely, I didn't want to get into it too much since I should be studying, but the fact that they are called "awareness" campaigns is generally because calling it a "fundraising" effort or whatever is a little less likely to produce equal levels of actual fundraising.
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