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I Don't Want Abortions Or Gay Marriage To Be Legal I Don't Want Abortions Or Gay Marriage To Be Legal

10-24-2015 , 08:00 AM
DOMA was signed because way way way back in 1996, the majority of the nation was against gay marriage and Bill (oh how shockingly) wanted to get re-elected. He could man up and say that after re-evaluating he was wrong to sign it or something to that effect.... but (again shockingly) the politician goes with historical revisionism and says he signed the damn thing to 'protect' gay marriage somehow, LOLZ.

Pretty much every democrat over the age of 55 is a "flip-flopper" on gay marriage, or their positions on it are always "evolving" as Obama put it.
10-27-2015 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
DOMA was signed because way way way back in 1996, the majority of the nation was against gay marriage and Bill (oh how shockingly) wanted to get re-elected. He could man up and say that after re-evaluating he was wrong to sign it or something to that effect.... but (again shockingly) the politician goes with historical revisionism and says he signed the damn thing to 'protect' gay marriage somehow, LOLZ.

Pretty much every democrat over the age of 55 is a "flip-flopper" on gay marriage, or their positions on it are always "evolving" as Obama put it.
Welp, better not regard the flip flop as any better than the backwoods bigots who still insist that gay marriage is going to be the downfall of America. No siree, liberals are definitely still just as bad.
10-27-2015 , 02:09 PM
And you are mistaken about DOMA being the the law that ostensibly protected gays. You are confusing it with DADT. Conservatives wanted to hold an inquisition and investigate secret gay people and root them out of the military. DADT was a compromise against that. It is worse than what we have now, but it was certainly better than the conservative plan.
10-29-2015 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
And you are mistaken about DOMA being the the law that ostensibly protected gays. You are confusing it with DADT. Conservatives wanted to hold an inquisition and investigate secret gay people and root them out of the military. DADT was a compromise against that. It is worse than what we have now, but it was certainly better than the conservative plan.
I am absolutely not confusing it with DADT, i meant DOMA. I think you're assuming I meant DADT because you realize how absurd it is that DOMA could have possibly been spun as a pro-gay measure. However after further research, I did mess something up. Bill did not try to make this spin, Hillary did:

http://freebeacon.com/politics/bill-...t-at-the-time/

...so I must withdraw this particular flip-flop accusation of Bill and just call Hillary a liar. Actual evidence suggest Bill sincerely struggled on the issue.

On DADT, imo... at the time it DID protect gays. Before Don't Ask, Don't Tell it was essentially: "Can Ask, Must Tell"..... have to believe DADT was an improvement.
10-29-2015 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Welp, better not regard the flip flop as any better than the backwoods bigots who still insist that gay marriage is going to be the downfall of America. No siree, liberals are definitely still just as bad.
If gay marriage was the only argument in politics I'd vote Democrat.

      
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