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09-07-2010 , 12:29 AM

David Sklansky

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The only guys I see on cable TV who rarely make moronic logical errors when arguing their points are Stossel and Napolitano.

09-07-2010 , 12:34 AM

Max Raker

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watch both of them more

09-07-2010 , 12:35 AM

Howard Beale

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Well, now we know where you get your cable news.

09-07-2010 , 12:39 AM

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Max,

link to either making moronic logical errors?

09-07-2010 , 12:40 AM

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Well, now we know where you get your cable news.

David's preferences in news anchors are well-known, and incidental exposure to Stossel and Napolitono are unavoidable given those preferences.

09-07-2010 , 12:45 AM

Howard Beale

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David's preferences in news anchors are well-known, and incidental exposure to Stossel and Napolitono are unavoidable given those preferences.

Well known, you say? I'm always the last one in on anything.

09-07-2010 , 12:45 AM

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Max,

link to either making moronic logical errors?

I think this is ******ed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiXs7oBynYA

Or should no company ever have a boss?

09-07-2010 , 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Max Raker

I think this is ******ed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiXs7oBynYA

Or should no company ever have a boss?

Wow dude. If you think that Stossel is arguing that companies should not have bosses then I'm not sure what to say to you.

Specifically, what logical error is Stossel committing with that piece?

09-07-2010 , 12:55 AM

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David Sklansky,

Low Political Content thread

Consider using it.

09-07-2010 , 12:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Raker

I think this is ******ed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiXs7oBynYA

Or should no company ever have a boss?

Maybe you're intentionally missing the point? Its not even Stossel's idea its a concept that economists came up with.

09-07-2010 , 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nichlemn

David Sklansky,

Low Political Content thread

Consider using it.

I think less people should use the LC thread and more should start threads like David does. Not everyone reads the LC thread and by starting a thread the idea is exposed to wider discussion.

09-07-2010 , 12:59 AM

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Well known, you say? I'm always the last one in on anything.

09-07-2010 , 01:02 AM

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Max Raker

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Wow dude. If you think that Stossel is arguing that companies should not have bosses then I'm not sure what to say to you.

Specifically, what logical fallacy is Stossel committing with that piece?

Hitler's world view had no "logical fallacies" and of couse neither does Stossels. You can't reduce everything to logic. Why does Stossle's argument work for governments but somehow fails for smaller groups of people?

(FWIW i think he is generally correct, there is too much control of what people do from government, but it doesnt make the ice staking argument correct)

09-07-2010 , 01:05 AM

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The Stossel bit is a nice populist statement, but people need leadership. Children, who act as if they have to run free, really want someone at some time to reign them in.

09-07-2010 , 01:07 AM

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Hitler's world view had no "logical fallacies"

Love it.

When cornered break out a Hitler reference. That'll get the subject changed if nothing else.

09-07-2010 , 01:08 AM

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Hitler's world view had no "logical fallacies"

wat

09-07-2010 , 01:08 AM

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You implied in your post that if Sklansky watched Stossel more often he would see Stossel making logical errors. Sklansky wasn't saying that Stossel was right, but that he didn't make logical errors in his arguments.

09-07-2010 , 01:10 AM

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Ok, that one I knew about and if a certain somebody disapproves we are both going down in flames together.

09-07-2010 , 01:13 AM

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Love it.

When cornered break out a Hitler reference. That'll get the subject changed if nothing else.

Or you can try to actually read, think and respond to what I said. Yes, Stossel did not violate Modus Ponens..... but I don't think that alone makes him right

09-07-2010 , 01:15 AM

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I thought that the stossel priece i posted was an obvious logical error. Or atleast something a fascist as well as an ACist would think is an error

09-07-2010 , 01:16 AM

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Or you could try and read Max. Sklansky explicitly said he didn't think that Stossel was right. He just said he didn't make logical errors. You implied that Stossel did make logical errors, and Sklansky just needed to watch more of him to see them.

09-07-2010 , 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Max Raker

I thought that the stossel priece i posted was an obvious logical error. Or atleast something a fascist as well as an ACist would think is an error

Describe the logical error Stossel was making.

09-07-2010 , 01:21 AM

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David Sklansky

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By the way Napolitano seems the more impressive of the two. But I have only watched their shows maybe ten times each.

09-07-2010 , 01:21 AM

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Max Raker

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Describe the logical error Stossel was making.

He did not make a "logical error". Neither did Jesus, Buddha ghandi hitler etc.... i thought that was clear

09-07-2010 , 01:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Raker

I think this is ******ed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiXs7oBynYA

Or should no company ever have a boss?

Stossell is my new hero just for the "What would Brian Boitano do?" line.

Also I think you misunderstood the point of the piece...

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