There's surprising little correlation between how loathed a public figure is and how often someone takes a shot at them. Gerry Ford got shot at, and by all accounts he was viewed as a nice guy - Reagan was pretty much viewed as a pleasantly demented grandpa type, and he got shot. Nixon, who was probably the most hated person in America for a number of years.....nothing.

Weird.

MM MD

Probably not what you guys mean, but before we give America three cheers for their devotion to non-violence and the sacrosanct Fourth Estate, do recall that someone murdered a reporter and a cameraman live on air less than 2 years ago.

So let me get this straight. A crazed lefty opens fire on some Republicans, and the Republicans are the villains? I love how you guys "think".

Who did more to advance their cause, MLK or the guy who shot him?

I fear when both parties continue down the road of only serving the rich and corporations and the corrupt and screwing everybody else this is only going to get worse.

Republicans aren't heroes while trying to end healthcare for some sick people just for $ for rich people; that's for sure. The line between good/bad gets blurred quickly.

Nah - just a random observation. My only (vague) point was that it seems strange to me that Kennedy go shot and no one took a pop at Tricky Dick.

And believe me, I don't have any illusions about how non-violent we aren't as a society. I go to work in four hours, and someone (or multiple someones) will be shot/stabbed/otherwise ****ed up while I'm on duty.

MM MD

"Crazed lefty" is irrelevant to republicans being villains.

You totally fail to reckon with the fact that taking MLK out of the game IS a major victory for the conservative movement! Sure, MLK may have accomplished more, but this allowed one person to take out a great organizer, a great writer, a great activist who was more than that other guy could have ever aspired to be. As I mentioned earlier, MLK was only 39 when he was killed.

This shooting has changed my world view.

LOL, GTFO here w/ your faux outrage.

Let's run down the suspects:

Scalise is apparently in critical condition? Sounds worse than was originally thought.

so expect less townhalls?

If MLK had advocated for violence I think he accomplishes less and his odds of getting assassinated would have gone up.

I've heard both critical and stable in the last hours so who knows?

To the point that conservatives now get to claim they are on his side and quote him unironically when opposing civil rights.

Looks like we need a Bernie's America thread. Might have to fake a story about some diverse college kids ripping the baseball hat off my head and taking it to a safe space, tho.

Representative Steve King blames shooting on the ‘left’

Scalise in critical condition...serious question:

What would it mean if he dies? How would that hurt or help the Dem cause?

I'm looking forward to the sound bite of Scalise, in a wheelchair, defending gun rights.

I've looked this up in the past. The Wikipedia page is helpful, although it doesn't help to clear up ambiguity of "stable."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_state

Says the guy who is so far right of center that he is a cartoon character.

Snark ftw so let's make this yet another gun control debate. By all accounts that I've read and heard was that the perpetrator would have easily qualified in any background ckeck in purchasing a gun. The guy had no record (he was charged with a crime once but charges were dropped), he had no history of mental illness that I've heard of. He lived in Illinois which to my understanding has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country. Short of repealing the 2nd Amendment and confiscating all guns what gun control law would have kept a gun out of his hands? I can't think of any. I guess I will just note that you want to repeal the 2nd Amendment and confiscate all guns. Fair enough?

In which adios claims and loses the moral high ground in the span of just a few sentences

Assault rifles should not be owned by any private citizens

LOL