It's always bull**** until until the unthinkable happens that you weren't prepared for. Remember when the thought of Trump winning the Presidency was complete bull****?

It's not even draining the swamp, it's just people on the other side listening to this suggestion:

Obviously not, because in the long run you're going to lose your shirt betting mass shooter = Bernie supporter at even money.

This guy clearly liked Bernie's ideas on lots of stuff, but I also think it's pretty clear he didn't get the idea to go shoot some politicians from Bernie. It's pretty obvious who has been the highest profile supporter of stuff like "drain the swamp", "maybe the 2A people will do something about that", etc.

I mean, fair enough, I'm sure congress is full of scumbags. But Trump gets the nutters all fired up and then when one pops off he bails out and starts acting like he's on the victims side. It's his "swamp" this lunatic was "draining".

personally, i cant wait until you neckbeard play acting tough talking pussies want to take this **** to the streets for real.

keep your medieval oafqueefing larping gear at home ok? lol or bring it, whatever.

A mass shooting perpetrator with a violent history? Didn't see that coming.

This tired mantra is a meaningless distinction when gun rights' advocates have resisted virtually every effort to restrict certain people from owning firearms rather than the nature of the guns themselves. We've seen them opposing to universal background checks, while fighting for the rights of felons and the mentally ill to possess firearms, and the NRA has even advocating guns in schools and bars.

The guy yesterday probably had to die. But black 16 year old Laquan McDonald certainly didn't. And what about the Oregon white guy police surrounded as he was holding the murder weapon after actually KILLING someone? They somehow managed to bring him in without a single shot being fired. Must be either superior Oregon police training or just a coincidence that they felt more threatened by a black kid running away than a white guy waving a knife after already having killed someone. The former had a full clip unloaded into him within 3 seconds of a cop pulling up on the scene, existing his vehicle, and drawing his weapon. These are not shootings we just have to accept as part of police work.

I sure do, and that relates to my point: Trump didn’t get there by engineering a violent coup, he was voted in on the strength of his populist nonsense, misinformation, and xenophobic blame-shifting. And, to a fair degree, feeding the paranoia of anti-establishment types who rush out for another gun every time a Dem mentioned the words “background check.”

But again, at least here, you don't need guns to protect against tyrants. What you need is an engaged population that demand accountability of their elected officials rather than cheerlead those they find entertaining. All the guns in the world aren't going to help if their owners are nothing but loyal apologists for oppressive policy, even when done in full view.

And of course, that doesn't really address the epidemic of gun violence that currently exists in the US.

i cant drop a tear for members of the GOP or other fascists.

edit: violence may not be a solution, but i refuse to be sorry for any of those "victims"

LMAO the gun nuts voted for Trump you bumpkin, and no where in the 2A does it mention well armed police. Try again.

Lestat,

At the time of 2A, countries didn't really maintain permanent professional standing armies. I think every revolution since the time of the professional standing army has either happened through the revolutionary actions or disintegration of the military (Russia 1917, Germany 1918, Iran 1979) or has been carried on with the support of an outside superior power (Vietnam, NK, etc) or they have had relatively peaceful transitions (eg Spain 1975).

The most effective things civilians have done have been to strike, march, and get killed (martyred).

I'm probably less anti-gun than most here but it's insane and ghoulish how GOP morons flatly refuse to even consider measures that would keep guns out of the hands of insane people and criminals.

LMAO

Can CNN go one day without lying?

"the gun nuts voted for Trump" but 70% of shootings are done by Democrats.

sauce:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...n-affiliation/

No, but the answer is start charging and convicting the rogue officers that pull this heinous **** and the federal overhaul of local departments that are shown to be institutionally racist. It's not arm the citizens with assault rifles and hope for the best.

ok so let's assume thetruthaboutguns.com is a reliable source (lol) why don't we get the guns out of the hands of those dangerous democrats? Let's pass strict gun regulation to save us all from these evil dems.

And as Philando Castile and Tamir Rice have shown, the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply to black people anyway.

Seems legit. Let's see.

Okay...

My dude, when you assume dems and republicans kill people at equal rates based on zero data, you don't get to conclude that dems are violent savages.

lol

I'm grateful that he didn't jump to the conclusion that black people are mirderous savages, but I'm not giving a gold star for this.

They probably just took every killing in a district and then gave it a percentage point based on the last election's voting results in that district. So, major cities have high gun murder rates and vote heavily democrat. Therefore, more murders are from democrats. Let's just pretend every street gang's membership is 80% democrat.

I'm assuming they at least did that much work, which is probably false.

edit: Saw the above and nope, it was much more basic (racist) and much less work than I thought they did.

I mean the cite is obviously a huge joke but even if it weren't the only reasonable reaction would be stop people from having guns. It makes no difference who those people are black white dem or rep just take the guns off people and then they wont be able to shoot others any more.

Did you actually finish high school? Because that article you cited actually lists the methodology for that figure, and it's about the sloppiest hack analysis I've seen in a while.

If you had simply said that black people were responsible for the majority of gun murders in the US, or that black people overall were much more likely to vote Democrat, or just made the statement that the majority of gun killings were perpetrated by people somewhere on the left and guessed that number was 70%, I wouldn't even bother to take issue with it.

But the fact that you found that source, presumably read it, and didn't recognize it for the incompetent trash it clearly is and actually presented it here as a source shows how vulnerable you are to misinformation. You deserve every bit of the ridicule you're getting.

Well if we are to take these two back-to-back statements at face value, the logical conclusion would be that somehow the overwhelming majority of murderous people living in the developed/first world just coincidentally all happened to be born in USA#1.

This. How have we Americans so lost our way that we can't even see this?