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Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN

06-20-2017 , 10:46 PM
LDO, the quickest way to get meaningful firearm restrictions is if a large percentage of black people started exercising their 2A rights.
06-20-2017 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy
Note for the record that the NRA will go full court press to prevent any restrictions on firearms purchases, but the NRA gives no ****s about this man being executed for lawfully possessing a firearm. A pretty severe infringement on his 2A rights.

Note also the man executed was black. The 2nd amendment is for white people only.
WaPo had a good article on this same subject recently
06-20-2017 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
LDO, the quickest way to get meaningful firearm restrictions is if a large percentage of black people started exercising their 2A rights.
Only if they open carry.
06-21-2017 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder

From a common sense standpoint, who would announce that they have a gun before killing a cop?
announce you have a gun and they have legal clearance to shoot bc, hey, you could be reaching for the gun. dont announce your gun, and then when they see it, they have legal reason to shoot bc you didnt announce it.

pretty classic catch-22.
06-21-2017 , 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
The video after the shooting has the gf saying "you asked him for his license" in a way to explain what he was reaching for. The cop is going on simple cues and someone reaching for something who could be armed is a trigger, and this guy just assured him he was definitely armed.

These cops are simpletons, and not using game theory here.
That doesn't mean he didn't commit a crime.
06-21-2017 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
The video after the shooting has the gf saying "you asked him for his license" in a way to explain what he was reaching for. The cop is going on simple cues and someone reaching for something who could be armed is a trigger, and this guy just assured him he was definitely armed.

These cops are simpletons, and not using game theory here.


Except the cop was already given his license and insurance which he is clearly holding in the video, so maybe he was using game theory.

That being said, cop clearly was guilty, you could tell he was nervous telling the guy why he pulled him over. Stuttering his words and what not. Also, the other cop could have easily diffused the situation if he just went to the passenger side of the car.
06-21-2017 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
announce you have a gun and they have legal clearance to shoot bc, hey, you could be reaching for the gun. dont announce your gun, and then when they see it, they have legal reason to shoot bc you didnt announce it.

pretty classic catch-22.
Only if you insist on exercising your 2nd amendment rights while black.
06-21-2017 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
From a common sense standpoint, it took 6-7 seconds to start firing and he fired seven rounds... Meanwhile a child was in the backseat, likely IN THE LINE OF FIRE. It's a miracle he didn't also kill the child. Also, the cop clearly freaked out and neglected some common sense firearm safety - sticking his gun through the window has to be a big no-no right? You don't want the end of your gun within arm's reach of the target if they are dangerous.
http://www.startribune.com/read-the-...iew/429665063/

If you read through Yanez's BCA interview from after the incident he confirms that the child was directly in his line of fire. Somebody with this lack of self control should never be given a badge. The dash cam video that was released is so grotesquely disturbing.
06-21-2017 , 01:35 PM
Yeah I mean I've become somewhat numb but seriously wtf at this.

This would be like Ray Rice getting put on trial for assault, the jury getting to see the video as admissible evidence and then finding him not guilty.

It is quite literally manslaughter beyond a reasonable doubt just from the video alone. Wtf.
06-21-2017 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
Only if you insist on exercising your 2nd amendment rights while black.
Well black people can own a gun they just can't carry one without hugely increasing their risk of being murdered by a cop. They get about 3/5ths of their constitutional right.
06-21-2017 , 01:38 PM
Just being black is enough to hugely increase the chance, no gun needed.
06-21-2017 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
Only if they open carry.
Isn't that what happened in California with the black panthers?
06-21-2017 , 09:00 PM
This is ****ing outrageous.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ashcam-footage

"The Minnesota police officer who shot and killed Philando Castile told state investigators that he believed his life was danger because he smelled marijuana in his car, according to transcripts released on Tuesday along with dash-camera footage.

Officer Jeronimo Yanez said in an interview following the fatal traffic stop that Castile’s apparent willingness to use the drug in front of his young daughter and girlfriend led Yanez to believe that the 32-year-old posed a serious threat.

“I thought if he’s, if he has the, the guts and the audacity to smoke marijuana in front of the five-year-old girl and risk her lungs and risk her life by giving her secondhand smoke and the front-seat passenger doing the same thing then what, what care does he give about me?” he said."
06-21-2017 , 09:02 PM
“Being that the … inside of the vehicle smelled like marijuana ... I didn’t know if he was keeping it on him for protection, for, from a, a drug dealer or anything like that or any other people trying to [steal from] him.”


Had it been a white guy, he wouldnt have had a single second of thought that it was being used in a drug deal. **** this guy
06-21-2017 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
“Being that the … inside of the vehicle smelled like marijuana ... I didn’t know if he was keeping it on him for protection, for, from a, a drug dealer or anything like that or any other people trying to [steal from] him.”
06-21-2017 , 11:26 PM
Marijuana: the only psychoactive drug in the world where you take it and it makes OTHER PEOPLE lose their minds.
06-21-2017 , 11:32 PM
There are people who watch the video and sincerely say "it doesn't look like anything to me".

The Westworld parallel is strong.
06-21-2017 , 11:39 PM
Milwaukee officer is acquitted of first-degree murder in shooting

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The latest high-profile prosecution of a police officer for a fatal shooting ended in an acquittal on Wednesday, as jurors cleared a Milwaukee officer of wrongdoing in the death of a 23-year-old man, Sylville K. Smith.

The shooting in August touched off two days of protests and violence on this city’s north side.
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Officer Heaggan-Brown and another officer were working in a residential neighborhood in Milwaukee when they approached Mr. Smith, who they suspected was involved in a drug deal. As they exited their squad car, Mr. Smith, who was armed with a handgun, darted away and ran into a yard with a chain-link fence.

When Mr. Smith reached the fence, he threw his gun over it, just as Officer Heaggan-Brown fired at him, a shot that hit Mr. Smith in his right arm.

Mr. Smith fell to the ground. Moments later, Officer Heaggan-Brown, standing several inches away, fired again, striking Mr. Smith in his chest. An official from the Milwaukee County Medical Examiner’s Office said the second shot had traveled through Mr. Smith’s heart and a lung and was “not survivable.”

The entire episode lasted about 12 seconds.
06-21-2017 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Jesus that's horrific. How a jury watches that and finds not guilty is just beyond me. With a woman and child in the car, no less.

Sadly Castile is probably alive if he doesn't try to do the right thing by informing the officer about the gun. I'm sure he figured he could just show his carry card so there would be no problem related to him having it in the car.

Cop was scared s***less. He should be in jail and never should have been given a badge or a gun.

As long as cop is scared murder is OK I guess. That jury is a joke.
06-21-2017 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004

“I thought if he’s, if he has the, the guts and the audacity to smoke marijuana in front of the five-year-old girl and risk her lungs and risk her life by giving her secondhand smoke and the front-seat passenger doing the same thing then what, what care does he give about me?” he said."
Secondhand smoke? Holy s***.
06-21-2017 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Secondhand smoke? Holy s***.
"He didn't have the child locks on the back doors of the car and I thought, if he didn't have child locks on in the back, with his kid back there, what's stopping him from murdering 30 people in a violent killing spree?
06-22-2017 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Jesus that's horrific. How a jury watches that and finds not guilty is just beyond me. With a woman and child in the car, no less.

Sadly Castile is probably alive if he doesn't try to do the right thing by informing the officer about the gun. I'm sure he figured he could just show his carry card so there would be no problem related to him having it in the car.

Cop was scared s***less. He should be in jail and never should have been given a badge or a gun.

As long as cop is scared murder is OK I guess. That jury is a joke.
I agree with the twelve people who unanimously agreed the cop was innocent.

When Officer Friendly asks to see your hands, reaching for your gun is a very bad idea.

This shooting had nothing to do with race.

I wish the man had not died.
06-22-2017 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Zorkman
I agree with the twelve people who unanimously agreed the cop was innocent.

When Officer Friendly asks to see your hands, reaching for your gun is a very bad idea.

This shooting had nothing to do with race.

I wish the man had not died.
Did you watch the video? What is the evidence that he reached for a gun?
06-22-2017 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Zorkman
This shooting had nothing to do with race.
How do you know?
06-22-2017 , 12:54 AM
I believe that cop made up his mind before he even reached the car. If he saw or heard the word gun, he was shooting.

      
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