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12-06-2016 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Yeah it really is absurd that there was only a single black guy on the jury. North Charleston is 45% black.
Come on, there's like an 0.8% chance of that just being random luck.
12-06-2016 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
No, this isn't true at all. Your average fox news watching blue lives matters ****** is insta-convicting here
Hannity called it murder.
12-06-2016 , 02:23 PM
exactly
12-07-2016 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
And not to Johnny Tone Police, but theres no need to throw around '******' in that manner Senor and rep+lol. Just an easy habit to stop. (not attacking ya'll for it, just pointing it out).
It's y'all, ******.
12-07-2016 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Yeah it really is absurd that there was only a single black guy on the jury. North Charleston is 45% black.
Can we see registered voter demographics?
That seems more important
12-07-2016 , 01:57 AM
^ I wonder what motivates someone to post that? Weird.
12-07-2016 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by steve1238
Can we see registered voter demographics?
That seems more important
It's really not enough.

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Each year, the State Election Commission provides Charleston County with a list containing the names of registered voters, persons holding valid driver's licenses, and persons with state identification cards.
but then to vote South Carolina requires the same ID. So registered voters only contributes to the jury pool people who register to vote but don't vote and don't have ID.
12-07-2016 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by somigosaden
It's y'all, ******.
stuff like this should be catching bans tbh, it's overly hostile and annoying to read.
12-08-2016 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy
It's really not enough.
but then to vote South Carolina requires the same ID. So registered voters only contributes to the jury pool people who register to vote but don't vote and don't have ID.
Yeah i was thinking the population of eligible jurors may be bizarrely skewed and one black member may actually be the proportionate share.
12-08-2016 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
stuff like this should be catching bans tbh, it's overly hostile and annoying to read.
He said it to a banned poster so it evens out.
12-15-2016 , 04:41 PM
Dylann Roof guilty on all counts after only two hours of deliberation.

Is the death penalty a federal thing in addition to states? The article says it was a "federal jury" and that they'll next meet in January to decide between death or a life sentence.
12-15-2016 , 04:45 PM
justice keeps working.

the ones railroaded with phony charges are found not guilty.

the ones who commit real crimes like Dylann Roof are found guilty.

good on you America
12-15-2016 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hornbug
justice keeps working.
dude I know your memory isn't that short, but maybe scroll up a little bit and remember the last discussion that took place in this thread
12-15-2016 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Dylann Roof guilty on all counts after only two hours of deliberation.



Is the death penalty a federal thing in addition to states? The article says it was a "federal jury" and that they'll next meet in January to decide between death or a life sentence.

The Feds have the death penalty but no one has been executed under the law since 2003.
12-15-2016 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Come on, there's like an 0.8% chance of that just being random luck.
Think it would be pretty likely that the Defendant used all of his Jury strikes on people of color. That and the lawyers probably went after people of color pretty hard for conflicts.
12-15-2016 , 07:38 PM
Well guys, if America can convict a white man of nine murders committed in full view of dozens of witnesses, I guess racism truly is dead!
12-15-2016 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Dylann Roof guilty on all counts after only two hours of deliberation.

Is the death penalty a federal thing in addition to states? The article says it was a "federal jury" and that they'll next meet in January to decide between death or a life sentence.
The state murder trial, entirely separate from the Federal trial in your link, doesn't start until January.

He has a few Federal weapons charges but the majority are civil rights violations in this case. Something like half of the Federal charges he was convicted of here carry the possibility of the death sentence iirc.
12-16-2016 , 09:34 AM
im against the death penalty on the basis that i think it's unacceptable for innocent men to be put to death (which happens a lot, and the application seems quite racist as well in usa#1), but man...no tears for people like dylan roof when they get sentenced to death. good riddance, piece of ****. i'd pull the ****ing lever myself
12-16-2016 , 10:42 AM
Im against the death penalty because I'm a liberal.
12-16-2016 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Im against the death penalty because I'm a liberal.
What does this even mean?
12-16-2016 , 11:06 AM
It's about liberal values and it's like torture - we dont oppose torture or the death penalty because it doesn't work or because the wrong people might be tortured. We oppose it because it is a bad thing for us to do.
12-16-2016 , 11:47 AM
I consider myself liberal, certainly by US standards I am, but I don't oppose the death penalty on principle.
12-16-2016 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
It's about liberal values and it's like torture - we dont oppose torture or the death penalty because it doesn't work or because the wrong people might be tortured. We oppose it because it is a bad thing for us to do.
I want this guy tortured by his conscience in miserable dehumanizing conditions for what he did for the course of his natural life. Death penalty is the easy way out. I'm not sufficiently confident in the existence of hell to want him to die just yet.
12-21-2016 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GBV
I want this guy tortured by his conscience in miserable dehumanizing conditions for what he did for the course of his natural life. Death penalty is the easy way out. I'm not sufficiently confident in the existence of hell to want him to die just yet.

I'm just reading old threads I subbed to, so I know I'm a week late, but you can't see times where he'd be happy to be alive, even under those "miserable dehumanizing conditions"?

especially someone as convinced in a "cause" as him. he'll have ****ty days, but he'll also have kick back days. he'll have meals he enjoys, conversations that intrigue him, friends he makes.

maybe I'm weird (I am) and I'm not looking to find out, but I could be happy in basically any situation other than just plain "torture until you die". maybe it's more, "I could be happy in any situation that I could feasibly find myself in, given the worst-case scenario occurred". like I said, I don't ever want to find out, but even in solitary, a random fond memory or a crude joke overheard or an extra slab of jello for christmas...you can always have positive moments.

I don't think this guy deserves those.

he's not going to get stabbed to death or going to be 'found dead in his cell', he's too high-profile for that. so he'll sit in a cell by himself for 23 hours a day for the rest of his long-ass, natural life (which is even more true getting access to health care that probably 90% of the people of North Carolina can't). is it gonna suck the overwhelming majority of the time? I hope so. but he still certainly will experience joy and humor and maybe even love.

his conscience isn't going to torture him, they should walk in, tell him in 5 minutes they're taking him into a room and shooting him in the head, give him his 5 minutes and then take him into a room and shoot him in his head.
12-21-2016 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
im against the death penalty on the basis that i think it's unacceptable for innocent men to be put to death (which happens a lot, and the application seems quite racist as well in usa#1), but man...no tears for people like dylan roof when they get sentenced to death. good riddance, piece of ****. i'd pull the ****ing lever myself
Why not torture him?

      
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