Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN - Page 303 - Politics and Economics

Obviously wont happen under Orange but the federal government needs to start handing down massive fines in these types of civil rights abuse cases to the cities so that they cannot afford to have racist police officers and have to change their system of policing.

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12-02-2016 , 05:58 PM

#7554

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlelou

Doesn't seem like an unreasonable assumption if the jury is hung with one holdout. At least in my vast criminal trial experience.

Do you think racist cop apologists are a rarity in South Carolina?

12-02-2016 , 05:58 PM

#7555

+rep_lol

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god this is pissing me off so badly right now

12-02-2016 , 06:00 PM

#7556

goofyballer

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Not over yet! (probably will still be mistrial though)

12-02-2016 , 06:01 PM

#7557

seattlelou

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Do you think racist cop apologists are a rarity in South Carolina?

I would like my chances as a prosecutor in a retrial. I see you disagree but it seems weird to argue about something clearly neither of us has any experience to judge.

12-02-2016 , 06:03 PM

#7558

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lol @ thinking conviction is >50% in a re-trial in good ol' SC

12-02-2016 , 06:05 PM

#7559

Riverman

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If you have not been to SC you cannot imagine how blatantly racist and ignorant people are there.

12-02-2016 , 06:07 PM

#7560

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Do you think racist cop apologists are a rarity in South Carolina?

Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

lol @ thinking conviction is >50% in a re-trial in good ol' SC

To be fair to lou, there's only one out of twelve on this jury.

Like, hypothetically taking this jury as a representative sample, by my math there's a 35% chance (not great but not minuscule either) that a random redraw from the population gets a jury with 0/12 people too dumb/racist to convict.

12-02-2016 , 06:08 PM

#7561

miajag

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Yeah gotta imagine in a random sample of 12 South Carolinians the chance of getting at least one who legit believes killing black people should at most be an animal cruelty charge is pretty high

12-02-2016 , 06:08 PM

#7562

SenorKeeed

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Lol at expecting a different result next time.

Will be willing to make an even money bet that if this jury hangs the case will be retried and result in a conviction. Push if there's a plea deal.

12-02-2016 , 06:08 PM

#7563

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^^^^^^^^ what riverman said. i had to move down here while the gf finishes medical school, the KKK and other white nationalists have weekly protests down at the capitol building here in columbia where they rage about gay people and not being able to fly the confederate flag on state property anymore. i'm surrounded by complete ****ing scumbags, it's ridiculous and i hate it.

12-02-2016 , 06:09 PM

#7564

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Quote:

Originally Posted by miajag

Yeah gotta imagine in a random sample of 12 South Carolinians the chance of getting at least one who legit believes killing black people should at most be an animal cruelty charge is pretty high

that's pretty much a mortal lock, no pun intended

12-02-2016 , 06:10 PM

#7565

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

If you have not been to SC you cannot imagine how blatantly racist and ignorant people are there.

A couple of things:

-- This is technically a true statement.
-- People in other states in the south generally consider South Carolina one of the more affluent and well-educated states in the south, and it is.
-- This is not a The South problem, this is a problem all over the country. I don't remember that high profile conviction in Baltimore or Milwaukee or even San Diego. If I'm wrong I'll be gladly mistaken. Also this entire country just elected Donald Trump, not just the south.

12-02-2016 , 06:12 PM

#7566

hornbug

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there was a retrial in the loud music shooting case that ended in conviction

with only one holdout it is not hard to see how this will end up

common sense jurors tend to get it right, as 11 out of 12 seem to be doing today

12-02-2016 , 06:12 PM

#7567

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Originally Posted by hornbug

That guy wasn't a cop. Big difference.

12-02-2016 , 06:19 PM

#7568

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

-- This is not a The South problem, this is a problem all over the country. I don't remember that high profile conviction in Baltimore or Milwaukee or even San Diego. If I'm wrong I'll be gladly mistaken. Also this entire country just elected Donald Trump, not just the south.

Johannes Mehserle was convicted of involuntary manslaughter (though he got too light of a sentence) in less of a slam-dunk case than this. Not that his case wasn't, but this is like, the clearest example w/ video proof of a police officer murdering someone that I can ever remember seeing. What makes something like this, or other convictions, high-profile isn't when they are convicted - frankly, when this first happened, I imagine most of us assumed the officer was for sure going to jail (in b4 posts are quoted expressing skepticism now proven correct). This is about to become super high profile when he's not convicted.

12-02-2016 , 06:23 PM

#7569

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Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

this is everywhere in the South.

12-02-2016 , 06:25 PM

#7570

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This is where he shot the guy in the back and then planted his tazer on him? Not sure how you can sell "fear" or "passion" or whatever when you see that. FFS even hornbug is rooting for a conviction.

12-02-2016 , 06:26 PM

#7571

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hornbug probably setting us up for a troll pivot at some point.

12-02-2016 , 06:29 PM

#7572

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Well maybe it's just me but I remember so many high profile non-convictions I couldn't even list them. The high profile convictions I could count on one hand (including the one you just named).

12-02-2016 , 06:34 PM

#7573

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Reviewing earlier posts ITT (this happened early last year, the wheels of justice are slow indeed) on conviction predictions:

Quote:

Originally Posted by will1530

Yeah, planting evidence next to the body is just amazing. I can't imagine how this cop could possibly beat a murder charge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harold Reynolds

What's the probability this cop walks? Greater than 75%?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wahoo3

0%. best case scenario he gets down to manslaughter, but even that i think is a stretch. that is a video of a murder, it's going to be hard to spin it into anything else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

I think you're far to optimistic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWM155

LOL. This is SC. Dude is like 50% getting off before the jury is even picked. You basically have to hope not a single person on the jury is thinking "Why did that N@gger run to begin with? He must be guilty of something. Cop was doing his job."

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Originally Posted by PoundingTheUnder

i can't imagine this guy walks. no ****ing shot there will be that many ******ed racists on one jury, even in SC.

i could certainly see a hung jury and re-trial. with a couple of idiot racists holding out.

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Maybe I'm optimistic, but I'm pretty sure this guy is getting nailed to the wall if he's caught planting a taser at the scene. The NYPD would get away with this kind of thing, but that's like a whole other planet.

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Originally Posted by PoundingTheUnder

eagerly looking for 3/1 bets here.

the best chance of me losing that bet is by the DA making a manslaughter offer.

in court, i'm never losing.

Wookie, JWM looking smart here. LedOut almost had it until his ill-advised bold prediction.

I didn't post until a few days later, still time to see if this prediction holds:

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Originally Posted by Nichlemn

So what happens if Slager is found not guilty of anything? Or some relatively trivial offence which results in <1 year of prison?

Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

This generation's Rodney King riots.