Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN

04-18-2015 , 12:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies
1149 reported in 2014. The police aren't obligated to report them and the majority of PD's don't.
Who said social media was not good for something. You should link the article next time as I was wondering where you got that number from.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/a...ice-homicides/

I still do not think its a statistically big enough number for me to fear death by cop, even if all of them were unwarranted.
04-18-2015 , 12:48 AM
It's got to be 1-2 orders of magnitude more likely that you're killed by a cop than by a terrorist.
04-18-2015 , 12:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by braves2017
Who said social media was not good for something. You should link the article next time as I was wondering where you got that number from.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/a...ice-homicides/

I still do not think its a statistically big enough number for me to fear death by cop, even if all of them were unwarranted.
My bad, it's from this website.

http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/


It's more about police violence. Sure, "only" 1100 died, but how many got the **** beat out of them for a no reason or shot 6 times and lived?
04-18-2015 , 01:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by campfirewest
How do you know that PD's are killing people and not reporting it? Do they just dispose of the bodies Sopranos-style or something?


I've read a lot about this stuff since Michael Brown.

Quote:
When 24-year-old Albert Jermaine Payton wielded a knife in front of the police in this city’s southeast corner, officers opened fire and killed him.

Yet according to national statistics intended to track police killings, Mr. Payton’s death in August 2012 never happened. It is one of hundreds of homicides by law-enforcement agencies between 2007 and 2012 that aren’t included in records kept by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Quote:
The full national scope of the underreporting can’t be quantified. In the period analyzed by the Journal, 753 police entities reported about 2,400 killings by police. The large majority of the nation’s roughly 18,000 law-enforcement agencies didn’t report any.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hundreds...ics-1417577504
04-18-2015 , 02:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaKtickets
What the hell does that even mean? How much time have you even spent in SC?
Plenty. I hiked the AT 4 years ago and made a pit stop in SC for 3 weeks. (The AT doesn't go through SC; I was visiting friends) I also have relatives that live there and spend probably about 20 days a year from the time I was 3 or 4 until I graduated HS. The rural parts of SC, GA, FL, MS and AL are extremely racist. All in all, I would say I have spent 10 years or so in these states. You are being extremely ignorant if you are assuming all 12 jurors will not be racist.
04-18-2015 , 07:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies
My bad, it's from this website.

http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/


It's more about police violence. Sure, "only" 1100 died, but how many got the **** beat out of them for a no reason or shot 6 times and lived?
That is fair but then I think we have to consider who was justly killed because obviously some deaths were warranted giving the circumstances involved. I think a civilian review board of police activity would be great. Almost like we have congressional oversight on most federal activities.
04-18-2015 , 07:47 AM
Quote:
A Fulton County magistrate granted a $10,000 bond Thursday to a man who is charged with aggravated assault with a gun on two Atlanta police officers after his lawyer said police shot him seven times, primarily in the back, when he was fleeing.

Yuric J. Ussery, 22, was shot while fleeing police April 8 after two officers, who were part of a crime-suppression unit, tried to stop him for jaywalking in the high-crime Mechanicsville neighborhood. Instead, Ussery fled and the pursing officers said they shot him after he pointed a gun at them.
Quote:
“As the foot pursuit continued the suspect produced a pistol from his waistband and pointed the loaded weapon at the officers,” the report said. “The officers fearing for their lives and the safety of others discharged their City issued firearms striking the suspect. The suspect was then taken into custody and the suspect’s weapon was recovered.”
Quote:
Officers felt threatened by the mere presence of a weapon — regardless of whether he pointed it — and a civilian witness heard officers shout Ussery was armed, which bolstered the officers’ version of events, Turner said.
Quote:
The semi-automatic pistol police recovered at the scene was jammed with a bullet, which could have happened if Ussery fired or tried to chamber a round, Turner said. He suspected Ussery ran because he was on probation and illegally had a weapon that had been reported stolen last year
Fleeing jaywalker. Waistband pistol. Feared for their lives. Stolen gun at a scene. This one has it all.

http://m.ajc.com/news/news/judge-gra...#__federated=1

Last edited by ALLTheCookies; 04-18-2015 at 07:52 AM.
04-18-2015 , 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies
Fleeing jaywalker. Waistband pistol. Feared for their lives. Stolen gun at a scene. This one has it all.

http://m.ajc.com/news/news/judge-gra...#__federated=1
Dude must be some sort of ninja. It is seriously difficult to point a weapon prior to drawing it.
04-18-2015 , 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smacc25
The report that i seen in the (alex jones show-i know don't abuse me lol) said that u are 8% more likely to get killed by a cop than a terrorist.
I'd guess an American is more likely to be killed by an animal than a terrorist.
04-19-2015 , 10:34 AM
This guy died today. Beaten to death by a ghost.

Quote:
Four bicycle officers tried to stop Gray about 9 a.m. on April 12 in the 1600 block of W. North Ave. for an alleged violation that police have not disclosed. He ran, police said, and the officers caught him and restrained him on the ground while awaiting backup.

It's unclear how Gray was injured. According to a police timeline, he was fine when he was loaded into a van to be taken to the district station, but was injured by the time he got out. He suffered a broken vertebra and an injured voice box, his family said.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...418-story.html
04-19-2015 , 11:16 AM
Somehow this was deemed news worthy where Im from;
04-19-2015 , 02:28 PM
Quote:
for an alleged violation that police have not disclosed.
They won't even disclose his alleged offense? How in **** is that even legal.
04-19-2015 , 02:56 PM
legal? don't you know LEOs are above the law?
04-19-2015 , 07:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yakmelk
Somehow this was deemed news worthy where Im from;
I think its a pretty dramatic video, and certainly newsworthy. Basically, it exposes as cowardly scum all the police officers who "just couldnt help it" and had to shoot and kill everyone who didnt perfectly comply with every single order they gave and who "could have had a weapon who knows."
04-19-2015 , 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vhawk01
I think its a pretty dramatic video, and certainly newsworthy. Basically, it exposes as cowardly scum all the police officers who "just couldnt help it" and had to shoot and kill everyone who didnt perfectly comply with every single order they gave and who "could have had a weapon who knows."
I think we'd be sadly not surprised by the amount of people who are ok with the cops pulling the trigger in the scenario where the criminal is clearly pulling for suicide by cop.
04-20-2015 , 12:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sweep single
I'd guess an American is more likely to be killed by an animal than a terrorist.
Yeah i guess you're right.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies
This guy died today. Beaten to death by a ghost.



http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...418-story.html
If that is freddie gray,then the vid below ure post has a link to the video.
People were screaming that freddie greys legs were broken while being carried to a police van WTF.
Cops caught in a lie again, with the lack of info that is given out, guess there trying to get better story to match that timeline. F..K*** A******
04-20-2015 , 04:52 PM
spoiled for NSFW language that are facts of a matter.

Spoiler:




So how much is too many for it to be just a few bad apples?
04-20-2015 , 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
spoiled for NSFW language that are facts of a matter.

Spoiler:




So how much is too many for it to be just a few bad apples?
Lolol "committed no crime and was savagely beaten" blah blah blah irt to Gray. You'd think people would've learned in the Mike Brown case not to go HAM right off the bat when they have no clue about the facts of the case, but I guess that's to be expected.
04-20-2015 , 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorMuresano
Lolol "committed no crime and was savagely beaten" blah blah blah irt to Gray. You'd think people would've learned in the Mike Brown case not to go HAM right off the bat when they have no clue about the facts of the case, but I guess that's to be expected.
OK, why did he deserve to die?
04-20-2015 , 09:44 PM
That's a very reasonable question. At no point did I see anybody use any force on him. Take a deep breath, bro.
04-20-2015 , 09:46 PM
If you read the timeline offered up, another prisoner was picked up by the same wagon while Freddie was inside. Perhaps that individual's account is something people should wait for?
04-20-2015 , 10:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorMuresano
If you read the timeline offered up, another prisoner was picked up by the same wagon while Freddie was inside. Perhaps that individual's account is something people should wait for?
Source?
04-20-2015 , 10:03 PM
I'm on my phone but I think it was the Baltimore sun that has a timeline laid out. Gimme a minute
04-20-2015 , 10:11 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/20/us/fre...more-timeline/

Quote:
8:59:52 a.m.

The van's driver asks for an additional unit to "check on his prisoner [Gray]," Rodriguez said.

Another individual is arrested and a wagon is requested.

Before the wagon leaves, there is "some communication" with Gray, according to Rodriguez.

They then travel to the police cepartment/s western district with Gray and the other suspect in the wagon. The two are separated by a metal barrier and the two had no physical contact.
04-20-2015 , 10:12 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/20/us/fre...more-timeline/

So, video didn't show any use of force, he was up and yelling when he was put into the wagon. Reports are, aside from the spinal cord injury, there was no other sign of injury to Gray (no leg injury despite people claiming it appeared it was broken on video). So, either he already sustained a major spinal cord injury prior to being loaded in the wagon (I think we can agree that's unlikely), in the four minute window where another unit was requested the officer driving the wagon stopped, removed him, and at that point he was beaten and sustained that injury (perhaps that's reasonable to people like PoundingTheUnder), or his injury happened inside the wagon, where he was by himself. The van wasn't involved in an accident, so I guess the other guy's account is pretty important.

      
m