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Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN

07-06-2016 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
**** the police. Who are these people they hire? Bunch of untrained jagoffs. Thread title needs an update.
To what? Cops shoot armed convicted rapist?
07-06-2016 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
The thug vs not a thug narrative is so tiring
Then why are you the only one here who won't shut the **** up about it?
07-06-2016 , 12:01 PM
If you have a wrap sheet its ok for cops to execute you in the street. Fun times.
07-06-2016 , 12:10 PM
The overlap between people who want to send Hildawg to jail forever over some email and people who are completely fine with the police murdering brown people over selling some CDs is (not so) shockingly high. Sad!

Last edited by TimmayB; 07-06-2016 at 12:20 PM.
07-06-2016 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
To what? Cops shoot armed convicted rapist?


forgot to add "while being physically restrained on the ground." Guess once someone has been in prison it's just open season if you see them on the street.
07-06-2016 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
To what? Cops shoot armed convicted rapist?
LA is an open carry state. He was well within his rights to have that gun. Now, can you imagine any conceivable reason why Alton Sterling would be shot and killed, and these guys wouldn't?

07-06-2016 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
To what? Cops shoot armed convicted rapist?
Man this is an ******* of a post. You're basically just fine with bad people being murdered without due process?
07-06-2016 , 01:46 PM
For the most part I am against the death penalty but the cop that shot him needs to be executed.
07-06-2016 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
To what? Cops shoot armed convicted rapist?
Do you genuinely believe you're a good person?
07-06-2016 , 02:01 PM
I'm more trolling than anything. I'm just making the point the narrative is not the same as these other incidents. This isn't Walter Scott running from the police and getting shot in the back. I don't believe the police were justified at all. He was basically executed. I am generally extremely critical of police. They are trained that when someone has a gun to freak the f out and start yelling "gun! gun!".

Also, if he is a convicted felon I'm pretty sure he can't posses a weapon even if it's an open carry state.
07-06-2016 , 02:06 PM
****ing terrible, hope these scumbags face severe repercussions
07-06-2016 , 02:40 PM
#HeWasNoAngel got revved up in record time
07-06-2016 , 02:54 PM
Ignore the inbred yokel from NC
07-06-2016 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
I'm more trolling than anything. I'm just making the point the narrative is not the same as these other incidents. This isn't Walter Scott running from the police and getting shot in the back. I don't believe the police were justified at all. He was basically executed. I am generally extremely critical of police. They are trained that when someone has a gun to freak the f out and start yelling "gun! gun!".

Also, if he is a convicted felon I'm pretty sure he can't posses a weapon even if it's an open carry state.
This mother****er admits he was executed and is still on some "well actually he was a bad guy" bull****. HOW THE **** DOES THAT MATTER? You care more about the narrative being defined correctly than people ****ing dying? That's the thing that pulls you out of your cave to post? That we need to do a better job of sorting out all the different times the cops have murdered black people?

Here's some pretty good stuff, Peter Rosenberg (NYC hip-hop radio personality/Wrestling Podcaster) goes off on a cop who was hemming and hawing over even saying "it looks bad"

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHhm7GpB...ergradio&hl=en
07-06-2016 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
Also, if he is a convicted felon I'm pretty sure he can't posses a weapon even if it's an open carry state.
http://www.jameseboren.com/GunOwners...ctedFelons.pdf

No. He may not have been allowed because there are certain crimes and circumstances under which Louisianans can be denied the right to carry firearms, although I don't see anything in particular indicated that Alton Sterling was barred, and even still, after completion of sentence, those rights typically get restored.

Regardless, even if he was barred, the police had no way of knowing that when they killed him.
07-06-2016 , 05:10 PM
There's a great Frontline documentary on police brutality called "Policing The Police". It shows how simplistic cops think while on the beat. It appears that police officers treat everybody like the enemy rather than cooperating with law-abiding citizens to stop law-breaking citizens. This leads to civilians being afraid of the police which prevents them from confiding in them when they need to most.

Cops need to stop treating people like criminals until proven otherwise and people have to be willing to cooperate with the police in order to clean up their neighborhood rather than thinking that it's cool to not be a snitch. The unhealthy relationship America has with authority is eventually going to come to a head where everyday, law-abiding people are going to take a stand against the powers that be. May not happen during my lifetime, but it will eventually happen if nothing changes.

As for this issue, there's still a lot that needs to be known (that amateur left a lot of what happened obscured). Apparently, there's surveillance footage from the business the guy was standing in front of that has more information. I wonder if we'll be able to get the full story. When we get that, cops are either gonna look better but still pretty bad or even worse than they do now.
07-06-2016 , 05:19 PM
If both cops are claiming that their body cams fell off and were not recording during the struggle (as reported earlier) then it seems fair to conclude that this was pre-meditated murder.
07-06-2016 , 05:31 PM
Literally all "people" like JPantz have is the tiniest hope of one day gotchaing a SJW on the internet lol

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I am generally extremely critical of police.
These people keep trotting this **** out. Nope! It's insulting to lie to the reader, man.
07-06-2016 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
The Daily Beast put the whole video out there

WARNING IT'S GRAPHIC

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...illed-him.html

In my eyes it's hard to argue, though not implausible, the guy was holding a gun when the officer has to take it out of his pocket afterwards and struggles to do so, if that were the gun.
07-06-2016 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
If both cops are claiming that their body cams fell off and were not recording during the struggle (as reported earlier) then it seems fair to conclude that this was pre-meditated murder.
Kind of ridiculous that cops can turn off the cameras any time they do something that they aren't supposed to do. Defeats the purpose of having them.

Anyway, it's pretty easy for those cameras to fall off during a scuffle. It wouldn't be surprise to see that happen. It's also easy to "forget" to turn them on (whether you did so or not, you really can't tell somebody that they didn't forget). So, calling it premeditated murder based solely on cameras not being on is quite a huge stretch.

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EDIT: Okay, The Daily Beast video definitely makes the cops even worse. Still leaves me to wonder why they even approached him in the first place.

Last edited by SuperUberBob; 07-06-2016 at 05:50 PM.
07-06-2016 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Literally all "people" like JPantz have is the tiniest hope of one day gotchaing a SJW on the internet lol



These people keep trotting this **** out. Nope! It's insulting to lie to the reader, man.
I'm sure he was critical of the police at Waco, Ruby Ridge and the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.
07-06-2016 , 05:52 PM
I think some of them legitimately believe it because they get FURIOUS when they get a speeding ticket, but I mean, the guy was a sex offender, so just shoot him in the ****ing street why not. It's not like JPantz has a moral compass or any risk that he would one day end up on the wrong side of a racialized justice system.
07-06-2016 , 05:57 PM
We may not have to fear the cops now, but it's a slippery slope when it comes to this. First it's black people, then other minority races and then white people. At that point, we're in a complete police state not unlike that of the old Soviet Union.
07-06-2016 , 06:10 PM
Guys, we just need to let the system work here. One of these days, or years, or decades, the system will get it right.

      
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