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Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN

01-22-2016 , 04:49 AM
Better than falsely imprisoning them for murder I guess.
01-22-2016 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigoldnit
Cleveland seems to have discovered a pretty slick/ morally reprehensible way of dealing with the cost of police brutality lawsuits. There are apparently a few cases where thd city refused to indemnify the cops, but then did pay the fees and costs for the cops to file bankruptcy.

So, (a) the city doesn't have to mount a full defense to the underlying brutality case (b) the cop gets legal advice on how to be as judgment proof as possible and (c) the victim doesn't get to collect a full judgment. This outcome seems... less than ideal to me

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-police-abuse/
Pretty sure the article only tells about 40% of the story.

Like in the one case omitting the "cop" was off duty, drunk and the city was not sued. Which all sort of negates the cities liability. It is not like the cities, in police brutality cases, volunteer out of goodness and kindness to pay plaintiffs. There is a legal duty/theory requiring them to pay. If not then really they should not be giving away tax payer money.
01-23-2016 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob
Pretty sure the article only tells about 40% of the story.

Like in the one case omitting the "cop" was off duty, drunk and the city was not sued. Which all sort of negates the cities liability. It is not like the cities, in police brutality cases, volunteer out of goodness and kindness to pay plaintiffs. There is a legal duty/theory requiring them to pay. If not then really they should not be giving away tax payer money.


But if the city is trying to (a) distance itself from the cops and, (b) not spend unnecessary taxpayer money, then why is it paying for the officers' personal bankrptcy attorneys and apparently directing the process?


http://m.clevescene.com/cleveland/ho...lice-officers/

"But rather than indemnify per state law in that case, the city paid for the officers to enter bankruptcy — paying not only for their legal representation, but for their filing fee. Not to think about going into bankruptcy, Ayers' attorney Brown points out, but to dive right in.

"I think it's really clear when you look at the contract that the purpose was not to provide the officers with neutral, unbiased legal advice," she explains. "It was to ensure they filed for bankruptcy right away."

For one, the contract didn't pay the attorney by the hour, but instead forked over a $1,000 lump sum for each bankruptcy. "This is pretty unusual," Brown argues. The contract also does not compensate the bankruptcy attorney for any legal research; in fact, the attorney must get permission from the city's law department to undertake any research, discouraging the officers from finding an alternative to bankruptcy."
01-25-2016 , 07:10 PM
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/tor...760/story.html
Interesting verdict in the Sammy yatim case here in Canada
01-25-2016 , 11:41 PM
The police union speaks of "frontline officers". This warzone mentality is exactly the reason why a drug addled teenager with a knife ends up with 9 bullets in his body despite moving backwards.
01-26-2016 , 12:45 AM
so the first 3 shots counted as self defense and he was found not guilty for them and those killed him, then the 6 while he was on the ground he was found guilty of attempting to murder him but he couldnt have been found guilty of murder because he wasnt alive during those shots.
01-26-2016 , 01:02 AM
That is bizarre. The deadly shots were justified, but the non-deadly ones weren't? It doesn't sound like it was that he was already dead for the latter shots, but that those shots could not have killed him because of where they hit him. (according to people who work with the police)

I can see what they're saying, but it really sounds like the jury compromised.
01-28-2016 , 02:00 PM
This is a new one.

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The Chicago police officer accused of killing 19-year-old Quintonio LeGrier just after Christmas has filed a lawsuit against the dead teenager’s estate, alleging that LeGrier assaulted the officer and caused him emotional distress.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...ot-and-killed/
01-28-2016 , 02:02 PM
^^^

Wow
01-28-2016 , 02:30 PM
The militia dude killed in Oregon was "reaching for his waistband."
01-28-2016 , 05:10 PM
Where he had a visible gun. Better than an invisible one I guess but feel like they just said that to try and balance things out a tiny bit.
02-04-2016 , 03:52 PM
Last night, right before the deadline, Deray McKesson filed for the Baltimore mayoral race. It will be interesting to see what his platform will be besides police reform. I'm not totally convinced this isn't just a stunt to get more exposure, but it definitely throws a huge curveball into the upcoming elections and upcoming trials.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-of-baltimore/
04-27-2016 , 06:23 PM
On the anniversary of the Baltimore riots a BPD plainclothes officer shot a 7th grader with a toy gun. Notice the police chief uses the term "replica gun." Oh ya, his mom was arrested too.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...jl;jaksldjf;as


Abdication of Tamaria Rice's duties iyam.
04-27-2016 , 07:16 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...yelled-5504376



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Originally Posted by lycosid
Tulsa PD basically sponsoring a kill black people fantasy camp for old rich dudes.


This guy was just convicted of 2nd degree manslaughter. Jury recommended 4 years.
04-27-2016 , 07:29 PM
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The sheriff's office said Harris continued to struggle after being hit and may have been under the influence of drugs.
The **** is this? Not that it really matters but do they have any actual evidence of drug use or are they just spitballing here?
04-27-2016 , 08:20 PM
We should let the system work. I'm sure justice will be served. He was probably no angel.
04-28-2016 , 07:38 AM
If we followed the Cleveland Police union's advice to educate our kids on proper use of toy guns we will certainly save more lives than any number of misguided protests will.

+1 to Cleveland police for focusing on real solutions.
04-28-2016 , 07:40 AM
Do us all a favor and go play with a toy gun in a Cleveland park.
04-28-2016 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
Do us all a favor and go play with a toy gun in a Cleveland park.
I've been educated enough to know that's a bad idea. Have our kids been educated enough?
04-28-2016 , 07:54 AM
hornbug may have been under the influence of drugs when he posted that.
04-28-2016 , 10:04 AM
Should just give the kids real guns, that way it's open carry and cops will know not to kill them.
04-28-2016 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
hornbug may have been under the influence of drugs when he posted that.
Nah, but he probably is posting from that camp listed above. 80 percent of his posts are him ejaculating over a black person getting shot.

The rest are about how terrible Hillary is and how the media makes people say non-racist Donald Trump is a racist
04-28-2016 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
The **** is this? Not that it really matters but do they have any actual evidence of drug use or are they just spitballing here?
Authorities say he grew bigger and stronger with each bullet, turned around and started charging head-on into the hail of bullets, growing to about 8 feet tall before going down.
04-28-2016 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lycosid
Should just give the kids real guns, that way it's open carry and cops will know not to kill them.
Just give cops the toy guns.
06-28-2016 , 09:44 AM
Well we have a solid sentence passed down in Baltimore. The man caught squirting lighter fluid on a pile of propane cylinders in the riots was sentenced for arson.

Those committing real crimes are being convicted and those who are being scapegoated but committed no real crimes are being found innocent.

The justice system is working. We should all be happy about that, consider the alternative.

      
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