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03-07-2015 , 10:39 AM

Trolly McTrollson

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I dunno if I should go ahead and make a separate thread for these, or if we need a catchall "cops shoot unarmed black teenager" thread.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/07/us/wis...sts/index.html

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The 19-year-old was shot after allegedly assaulting police who were responding to a scene at a Madison apartment Friday evening, said Mike Koval, the city's police chief.

While the chief indicated the officer acted in self-defense, that didn't stop protesters from hitting the streets and converging on Madison's city hall to speak out against the shooting.

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The incident started when authorities got a call that a man suspected in a recent battery had gone to an apartment, Koval said.

Shortly before that call, another one had come in, saying the same suspect was "jumping in and out of traffic, dodging cars," according to the police chief.

When a responding officer went to the apartment, he heard some commotion and forced his way in, he said.

"Once inside the home the subject involved in this incident -- the same one allegedly out in traffic and that had battered someone -- assaulted my officer," Koval said.

03-07-2015 , 11:42 AM

schu_22

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What ever happened to the taser?

03-07-2015 , 11:45 AM

Anais

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Every call is LIFE OR DEATH

Jaywalking? LIFE OR DEATH

Double-parked car? LIFE OR DEATH

03-07-2015 , 12:17 PM

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A 19-year-old black man was shot dead

not that anyone cares here. Not even important enough to include in the op.

Yay let's have another bash police thread!

03-07-2015 , 12:49 PM

[Phill]

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The latino kid killed recently seems worse on the face of it. But yeah, cops be killing minorities far too often

03-07-2015 , 01:01 PM

miliboo

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03-07-2015 , 01:22 PM

spanktehbadwookie

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Spoiler:

03-07-2015 , 01:48 PM

fatkid

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This story is horrendous:

https://www.ijreview.com/2015/03/264...k-raid-murder/

Not a black dude. Shot him in the face for weed while wearing nothing but basketball shorts. Nice way to start your morning.

03-07-2015 , 01:52 PM

fatkid

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

I dunno if I should go ahead and make a separate thread for these, or if we need a catchall "cops shoot unarmed black teenager" thread.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/07/us/wis...sts/index.html

Containment is needed.

03-07-2015 , 02:03 PM

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62% of all SWAT team raids are for narcotics
36% of those found no drugs at all

Wow. That is some all around ****ty policework.

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There were approximately 2,000 raids a year in the 1980s, now there are more that 80,000.

Well, they must be working.

03-07-2015 , 02:04 PM

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greatwhite

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And of course both sides have already jumped to their respective conclusions.

03-07-2015 , 02:47 PM

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[Phill]

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Well yeah. One side thinks unarmed people shouldn't be executed, the other side points out they are black.

03-07-2015 , 03:58 PM

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greatwhite

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

Well yeah. One side thinks unarmed people shouldn't be executed, the other side points out they are black.

Why not? What if somebody feels their life is threatened? They should just take a chance that the person attacking them won't pull a fast one on them? Do cop lives matter? What if somebody yells that they'll kill the cop and they have a bomb? I think every unarmed person vs. cop scenario needs to be looked at differently. While I'm not sure the cop in the Michael Brown case should have been indicted, I'm almost positive that the cop in the Tamir Rice case should be prosecuted. If there isn't an indictment in that case I'll be shocked and I'd expect total chaos.

03-07-2015 , 03:59 PM

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Inso0

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Inb4 article blaming this on Scott Walker somehow.

03-07-2015 , 04:02 PM

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ALLTheCookies

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Maybe if there were more jobs in Wisconsin the riff-raff wouldn't be home to get shot and killed by police.

03-07-2015 , 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Why not? What if somebody feels their life is threatened?

Maybe stop creating all of these highly volatile situations by kicking people's doors down with tons of cops with high-powered weaponry over some weed?

03-07-2015 , 05:21 PM

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"Madison Mayor Paul Soglin told the Journal that there would be an out-of-area investigation into the shooting as required by a newly passed state law."

So Wisconsin won't allow the city to investigate events when its own police are involved.

03-07-2015 , 05:21 PM

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2/325Falcon

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

And of course both sides have already jumped to their respective conclusions.

The two sides here are jumping in and out of traffic and saggy pants, tho.

03-07-2015 , 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

And of course both sides have already jumped to their respective conclusions.

Let us hope that the two sides combined represent only a small portion of the population, and that the rest of us are going to let the facts revealed in the upcoming days inform us which "side" to be on.

I am happy to be on either side based on the eventual facts, and will support either conviction or vindication of the shooter as the facts dictate.

03-07-2015 , 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fatkid

****ing cops are out of control. notice one of the most important things in this story. swat drug raids are up from 2k/year in the 80's to 80k/year now. 36% of the time no drugs are found. and they're shooting shirtless people in the face and throwing flash bangs in babies cribs and telling the mother to "STFU your baby is fine," when in reality the babies face is blown off.

this ****ing **** makes my blood boil. makes me want to destroy the next mother****ing cop i encounter.

and these ****ing idiots wonder why everyone hates them. after those two wack jobs shot those cops in vegas i said to myself "good, **** em."

that's probably not a good thing when regular people are feeling that way.

03-07-2015 , 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by abseeker

sounds very good. Any idea on how much faith people should have in whoever will investigate?

03-07-2015 , 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Just about every super rare occasion lethal force is justified against an unarmed person is created by the cop doing the killing.

Also many times shootings of unarmed victims are ruled justified it's because of lies about reaching into their waistband or going for the cops gun or turning into a demon. I thought he was going for a gun/was an evil entity taking corporeal form is the go to excuse that is just a little to common to be believable.

03-08-2015 , 02:12 AM

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He was convicted of armed robbery in 2014 (http://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetails...nt=55&offset=4) and supposedly attacked a police officer before being shot in self-defense, I think it is a bit early for anyone to jump to conclusions and we all need to wait for more facts to come out. It is a sad situation.

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