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Old 08-06-2012, 09:20 AM   #7906
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Can Gary Johnson or Ron Paul speak a foreign language? My assumption is no, but giving a quick google i cant find evidence either way. So for current presidential candidates im gonna go for those two.
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:40 AM   #7907
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You know who didn't go to Israel? REAGAN

He did give weapons to Iran though. #1 enemy of Israel.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:31 AM   #7908
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Is that whole tax returns thing still an issue?

Romney should, not because it'd help him get elected but because it would make me happy, trade his tax returns for the Awlaki memo.

/edit Yes this thought is the direct result of a Greenwald article.

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Old 08-06-2012, 10:42 AM   #7909
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Can Gary Johnson or Ron Paul speak a foreign language? My assumption is no, but giving a quick google i cant find evidence either way. So for current presidential candidates im gonna go for those two.
Gary Johnson learned to speak fluent Tibetan while climbing Mt. Everest.

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Old 08-06-2012, 10:48 AM   #7910
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if this is re: Huntsman, wat
I'm not sure what's so hard to comprehend. Hunstman's campaign was essentially '**** you, like me', he worked for Obama, and after he lost he went to work for a center-left think tank.

Not many republicans out there are thinking... you know what? I missed Huntsman. He's completely unimportant electorally.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:53 AM   #7911
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I'm not sure what's so hard to comprehend. Hunstman's campaign was essentially '**** you, like me', he worked for Obama, and after he lost he went to work for a center-left think tank.

Not many republicans out there are thinking... you know what? I missed Huntsman. He's completely unimportant electorally.
And yet not one mention of his personal policy. He's a Democrat because Ikes says so.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:55 AM   #7912
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Couple GOP convention questions:

1. Given the current state of the economy, do you think there will be a larger than normal bump for Romney?

2. How much face time does the GOP leadership give the Tea Party, knowing it may turn off independents?
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:59 AM   #7913
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And yet not one mention of his personal policy. He's a Democrat because Ikes says so.
His personal policy? You mean his positions? You don't get a position at Brookings if you're a solid republican.

Huntsman is very much in the middle, and instead of running a smart primary campaign, he ran to the middle in the primaries instead of leaning to the right. Huntsman is way too far to the left on immigration (pro-DREAM act), cap and trade, and the individual mandate to have any decent sized portion of the republican party give a flying **** about him.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:07 AM   #7914
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It was pretty clear his primary strategy was to appeal to the select few non-retards left in the Republican Party by staying somewhat right of middle--I don't think this was an awful strategy. I mean obv in hindsight it looks poor, but most people didn't anticipate the GOP essentially becoming a exclusive congregation of mouth breathers.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:09 AM   #7915
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It was pretty clear his primary strategy was to appeal to the select few non-retards left in the Republican Party by staying somewhat right of middle--I don't think this was an awful strategy. I mean obv in hindsight it looks poor, but most people didn't anticipate the GOP essentially becoming a exclusive congregation of mouth breathers.
Yeah, not appealing to the largest number of people who, btw, are actually likely to vote, is a solid strategy.

Come on man.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:32 AM   #7916
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Can Romney really expect to win without the support of Blacks and Hispanics should they actually show up at the polls? From the polls I seen this morning on CNN it showed Romney with single digit support while Obama had high 80% support in those two demographics.
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Can Romney really expect to win without the support of Blacks and Hispanics should they actually show up at the polls? From the polls I seen this morning on CNN it showed Romney with single digit support while Obama had high 80% support in those two demographics.
I suppose it is theoretically possible but it's hard to see Romney winning Florida if he can't do better with Hispanics than that poll indicated.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:46 AM   #7918
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Huntsman wasnt campaigning for 2012. He was campaigning for 2016. He is relying on a terrible four years for the Republitards as they go further off the deep end until they come to their senses and go right leaning centrist in the hopes of beating whoever follows Obama.

His campaign was really clever in this respect. It played to his strengths, he never said anything dumb to hurt him in the future and he got his name out there as a Republican who can work with Democrats for the good of the country.

You can argue that crazy is too strongly rooted in the party but if they are going to keep going crazy he would never ever get picked anyway. The only reason McCain got the 2008 nomination was because he completely reinvented himself from 2000 when he went senile and the only reason Romney got the 2012 nomination is because the field was ridiculously weak and he had better name recognition going into it over Huntsman and Johnson (the only other mostly sane candidates) so they would have to go mega crazy to not pick him.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:48 AM   #7919
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Huntsman wasnt campaigning for 2012. He was campaigning for 2016. He is relying on a terrible four years for the Republitards as they go further off the deep end until they come to their senses and go right leaning centrist in the hopes of beating whoever follows Obama.
He will be wrong. I mean, moving to the left after McCain and Romney failed?
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:52 AM   #7920
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I suppose it is theoretically possible but it's hard to see Romney winning Florida if he can't do better with Hispanics than that poll indicated.
Obama won in 2008 with 43% support amongst whites, which was even worse when just factored for white men.

Romney will undoubtedly crush Obama in this segment but he will still get handsomely decimated in November if he cant close the colour and the gender gaps to Obama.

In terms of just Florida, the funny thing is Romney doesnt seem to have realised this yet. He is concentrating on the Jewish vote in Florida which time and again just plain doesnt care enough about Israel to switch in significant numbers from the Democrats but they just keep ringing that bell.
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