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Old 04-25-2012, 05:48 PM   #1996
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Re: And Here. We. Go. 2012 Presidential Election: Obama v. Romney

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Don't know how this ties in with what you're highlighting, but Chris Matthews is going crazy on MSNBC about what Mitt Romney allegedly said last night. According to the way he and David Corn are playing it, during his "victory speech" last night, Romney felt compelled to say that the rich (like himself) should be "congratulated" for their wealth and their success and that people of lesser means should admire the rich. (Don't know if that's an accurate portrayal of what Romney actually said, but that's the way Matthews and Corn are playing it.)

With the notable exception of Donald Trump, most rich people have the good sense to keep a low profile - they don't make a habit of rubbing their wealth (and their good fortune) in other peoples' faces - especially people whom they are asking to vote for them. Mitt Romney is a fish of a different species - he seems to think it's a virtue to flaunt his wealth and make a big deal out of being better off than 99 percent of his fellow citizens. Ronald Reagan was not "wealthy" in the sense of being worth a quarter of a billion dollars like Mitt Romney, but I don't think I ever recall Ronald Reagan bragging (or gloating) about his personal wealth or saying that people should "congratulate" him for his success. Reagan wasn't that dumb.

I recall Ann Coulter famously stating "Mitt Romney cannot win against Barack Obama and if Romney gets the nomination, Republicans will lose in November." (I'm paraphrasing slightly.) I'm not sure if this is what Ms. Coulter was thinking, but Romney does seem to have a tin ear when it comes to what "the average American" thinks and how most people perceive the rich and the well off. If Ms. Coulter's prophecy turns out to be correct, it will be interesting watching all the Republican acrimony and finger pointing in the aftermath of the election.

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Re: And Here. We. Go. 2012 Presidential Election: Obama v. Romney

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...at-in-arizona/

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Pretty sure my exact post was that I'd hold back on an outlier poll until something else supported it.
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Re: And Here. We. Go. 2012 Presidential Election: Obama v. Romney

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Don't know how this ties in with what you're highlighting, but Chris Matthews is going crazy on MSNBC about what Mitt Romney allegedly said last night. According to the way he and David Corn are playing it, during his "victory speech" last night, Romney felt compelled to say that the rich (like himself) should be "congratulated" for their wealth and their success and that people of lesser means should admire the rich. (Don't know if that's an accurate portrayal of what Romney actually said, but that's the way Matthews and Corn are playing it.)

With the notable exception of Donald Trump, most rich people have the good sense to keep a low profile - they don't make a habit of rubbing their wealth (and their good fortune) in other peoples' faces - especially people whom they are asking to vote for them. Mitt Romney is a fish of a different species - he seems to think it's a virtue to flaunt his wealth and make a big deal out of being better off than 99 percent of his fellow citizens. Ronald Reagan was not "wealthy" in the sense of being worth a quarter of a billion dollars like Mitt Romney, but I don't think I ever recall Ronald Reagan bragging (or gloating) about his personal wealth or saying that people should "congratulate" him for his success. Reagan wasn't that dumb.

I recall Ann Coulter famously stating "Mitt Romney cannot win against Barack Obama and if Romney gets the nomination, Republicans will lose in November." (I'm paraphrasing slightly.) I'm not sure if this is what Ms. Coulter was thinking, but Romney does seem to have a tin ear when it comes to what "the average American" thinks and how most people perceive the rich and the well off. If Ms. Coulter's prophecy turns out to be correct, it will be interesting watching all the Republican acrimony and finger pointing in the aftermath of the election.

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Lol this couldn't be more perfect for Obama. The elephant in the room (pun intended) gets pointed to yet again and it was someone on Fox doing the pointing so nobody can claim Obama is taking personal shots at Mitt's family.
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Re: And Here. We. Go. 2012 Presidential Election: Obama v. Romney

Obama thinks rich people are less qualified for office ???or something??? Except when he's stumping for their election?
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Old 04-25-2012, 06:29 PM   #2001
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Re: And Here. We. Go. 2012 Presidential Election: Obama v. Romney

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Obviously Obama isn't going to run a 100% positive campaign. That's just poor politicking, and no one here would claim Obama would do it. We're arguing against the claim that Obama will have to run a 100% negative campaign, or at least an overwhelmingly negative campaign not based on his record as president. That's obviously false, and a few thinly veiled barbs does not a negative campaign make.
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Obama thinks rich people are less qualified for office ???or something??? Except when he's stumping for their election?
Yeah, I think you pretty much nailed it bro
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Obviously Obama isn't going to run a 100% positive campaign. That's just poor politicking, and no one here would claim Obama would do it. We're arguing against the claim that Obama will have to run a 100% negative campaign, or at least an overwhelmingly negative campaign not based on his record as president. That's obviously false, and a few thinly veiled barbs does not a negative campaign make.
Sure, it will be interesting to me to see which campaign is considered to have run more negatively. "Thinly veiled barbs...does not a negative campaign make." is true but pointing to the positive stories on his website is not a compelling argument that his campaign is going to be particularly positive.
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Yeah, but the claim was that Obama wasn't going to run on his record. When "his record" is featured as the first thing you see on his website, that's running "on his record."
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And like Colbert noted, that silver spoon language is pretty boilerplate rhetoric when you're talking about access to education and student loans and stuff. Equality of opportunity being an American principle, you know?

It's just baffling how hard conservatives play the victim card. Barack Obama is trying to take away freedom and is deliberately sabotaging the economy so more people are dependent on welfare...

But also he mentioned he didn't grow up rich. HOLY ****! Way to make it personal, Obama. Can't we just focus on the issues?
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Yeah, I think you pretty much nailed it bro
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Just a typo, the x should be a vii not an xii. If your test results in a disparate impact on a minority, even of you don't mean to, you are ****ed:

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lol I know it was just a typo, it's just very ikes of you to not typo it into like vi or something but to go all the way into a Title that doesn't exist.

I still want to know where you picked up the very specific idea that IQ tests are banned by the CRA. Then I want you to link it here directly.
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jdizzle - I know who Corzine is?
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Re: And Here. We. Go. 2012 Presidential Election: Obama v. Romney

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Obama thinks rich people are less qualified for office ???or something??? Except when he's stumping for their election?
Republicans think smart people are less qualified for office.

Clearly the candidate who's going to unite us all and break the two party system will be a broke moron.
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Republicans think smart people are less qualified for office.

Clearly the candidate who's going to unite us all and break the two party system will be a broke moron.
First I LOL'd, then I started to get concerned that you were onto something, and finally I remembered Perry's failed candidacy and LOL'd again.
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