well named, So there you go! I believed what they said on FOX without verifying. And if someone was to tell me that Obama voted some 4000 times [as quoted in your link] while in the Illinois Congress, I would have said that was impossible. I mean, does the Congress cast 4000 votes over an 8 year period?! That would be 500 a year! I would bet money they don't - without checking.........unless you were willing to take me up on the bet.........then my jaw would drop!

It's gotten much worse since inauguration. Last year, I used to split my time between Fox and the normal media outlets, just to see what Republicans were up to. Yeah, they were cool to make fun of and all, but that was then.

After learning that Trump, as POTUS, was spending hours on the phone almost daily with the owner of Fox, and that his relationship was better with Murdoch than with most of Trump's family members, I stopped laughing.

As expected, they now need to be fact checked for bold-faced lies in every other sentence instead of a few exaggerations per topic.

Our House, The commentators on Bret Baier @ 6pm are not defending Trump CNN had to apologize for false Russian stories. Nobody to believe these days.

I suspect, although I am not certain, that the 4000 number includes votes that are not final up/down votes to pass legislation, but procedural votes related to how bills move through the legislative process, including through committees.

Pathetic.

Exactly what Trump wants. Also exactly what Putin wants. Coincidence #2650.

These idiots must be on every politics forum on the internet. "He could be workin' at Burger King spittin on your onion rings."

"One side told me Obama was a muslim trying to take all my guns away and install sharia law in the USA while the other side got one source wrong, retracted the story and printed a correction. So much fake news out there I just don't know who to believe."

How have these people not had a paint eating mishap yet?

I'm sure some truly believe that, and some don't, but like clockwork they all feel compelled to get you on that level. They're like Mormons.

I'd argue that bias is inherently bad and so it can't get better.

You could talk about the quantity of it going up or down though. I'm under the impression that the media is becoming more polarized but I am not a regular news viewer. I stick to the Reuters app which seems to cut away a lot of the "The Sky Is Falling!" type of news that freaks people out here.

Liberal Bias has been sneaking into the WH and using Trump's phone to make him look like an idiot.

I think it was Baron.

"What makes you think the president is colluding with Russia? He can't even collude with his own Congress." - Lindsay Graham [R] Senator SC

There's more.

I didn't even know there was liberal media bias. That's just some **** Republicans like to say so they feel better about themselves.

Trump was a birther for almost a decade and nobody even talks about it. Instead we get Wolf hitting his fainting couch because Trump told a lie today. Breaking news: Trump is always ****ing lying and the media is full of disingenuous ratings whores.

The media tends to be biased towards centrism and neofeudalism (extreme capitalism), because it's owned by the incredibly wealthy and those are policies that tend to benefit the incredibly wealthy. This style of centrism tends to provide just enough stability to where people don't lash out too much at the system, while providing very little security for those at the bottom so they are forced to produce vast amounts of wealth for the owning class in relative peace.

So it's no wonder that the conservatives see the media as liberal because they are going to side with the Centrist party (Democrats) over the Far Right party (Republicans) more often than not. And people on the left see the media as being conservative because the media's economic agenda largely fits in with the big corporations and the Right/Far Right, even though they "strongly disapprove" of the social policies of the Far Right.

The media has failed to confront the rise of the Far Right in any meaningful way because doing so would mean putting historians, academics, and intellectuals on their programs and explaining to people the actual practical implications of the rise in extremism among the Republican party.

A Dangerous New Americanism?
https://warontherocks.com/2017/04/a-...w-americanism/

Our House: I quoted Graham, as it was funny when I watched it. Whatever is going on with POTUS, we'll find out during the G-20 Summit.
Russia, China & DPN wants the U.S.A. to stop military exercises with S. Korea.

I cannot, for the life of me, see how Mattis/Tillerson would be in favor of this, but we shall see.

ITS gotten much worse. I'm pretty liberal and I get annoyed hearing about trump bashing whenever I turn on cnn. I'm not a trump fan but we gotta let the it go and just acknowledge he won and is our president. If he does poorly, people need to make sure he isn't re-elected in 4 years. This all coming from a massive trump hater.

Why?

Why?

He's already doing very poorly.

But in the meantime, shut up and don't complain?

Therefore...the left here must really be out of line (since you're a massive Trump hater and you're not complaining)?

Doing so normalizes Trump. Normalizing Trump ensures that he can continue to step up attacks on democracy and the American people, while helping Putin destabilize the rest of the world's democratic systems and leaving him a weak and wide open America for gradually increasing takeover.

The only thing keeping Trump at the current pace is perpetual resistance. They should be commended for what they do. Same for MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, and lots of others.

I don't think trump is doing a good job etc. I just get sick of hearing about it on cnn. Everyday i click to cnn.com or watch cnn, its trump bashing. It just annoys me bc i would rather hear other news. I'm going to get ripped itt regarding what i said or told not to watch cnn.


Basically if you are going to say trump colluded with russia, show me the details. I wanna stop hearing about it if there isn't concrete evidence. I can tell girls I have a 15 inch cock but if i dont show them how believable is that.

The evidence so far is essentially
Nearly every ****ing one on trump team has a russian tie or had a russian meeting they lied about, then when caught on that said it was about X, then when caught on that, changed the story to Y, some of them were caught on that, and it's now Z.
the initial NSA (flynn) is a complete wacko who at the minimum was compromised by russia/turkey.
If you did collude with the russians and you were stupid or afraid; you'd do exactly what trump is doing. Trump is stupid, so here we are.

The problem is that trump is indeed an authoritarian anyway, so a lot of this can be explained simply b/c that's who he is too so he wants to be their BFF and lol america for electing the one thing we fought for our independence against.