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Greatest POTUS, Round 1: Jimmy Carter vs. Ronald Reagan

View Poll Results: Who was the greater President?

Jimmy Carter

20 47.62%

Ronald Reagan

22 52.38%

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05-12-2012 , 04:06 PM

#51

13ball

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If I can't vote for Anderson, I guess I'll vote for...

Carter

05-12-2012 , 04:25 PM

#52

Country Roads

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Reagan

05-12-2012 , 08:01 PM

#53

leoslayer

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you ppl do understand that under regan the economy was incredible. also ended cold war, and nobody f'd with us after he bombed libya.

nobody remembers the gas lines? was freaking awful.

if you vote carter you are just ignoring facts and voting just because he was a dem

05-12-2012 , 09:32 PM

#54

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Anyone who votes carter should be ashamed

05-13-2012 , 12:01 AM

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Turn Prophet

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also ended cold war

lol u

05-13-2012 , 12:40 AM

#56

Bremen

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Carter nominated Volcker to the FED. nuff said

05-13-2012 , 12:46 AM

#57

Effen

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Carter, but reserve the right to change my vote to ZOMBIE REAGAN if he becomes available.

05-13-2012 , 05:12 AM

#58

daca

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Carter

05-13-2012 , 05:28 AM

#59

champstark

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Originally Posted by leoslayer

Reagan supporters who know nothing about history are cute in a perverted and amusing way.

All intelligent conservatives should hate Reagan for completely destroying smart conservatism. Reagan is the reason the religious wing has control of the party and the reason all intelligent people are not Republicans.

05-13-2012 , 06:09 AM

#60

Mayo

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Gotta vote Reagan, I guess. Carter presidency was some tough years in the country, and Carter didn't really do much to help anything.

If Robert Bork had been confirmed, I might have a different view, though. Having that man on the SCOTUS for the last quarter century would've been kind of terrifying.

05-13-2012 , 06:17 AM

#61

mutigers

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Reagan

goin with the cult of personality here, Carter is to beta

05-13-2012 , 01:16 PM

#62

LKJ

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Originally Posted by champstark

and the reason all intelligent people are not Republicans.

I see that this forum hasn't improved in its discourse.

Anyway, I vote Reagan even though conservatives' idolatry of him is way out of hand.

05-13-2012 , 07:00 PM

#63

spaceman Bryce

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Jimmy carter

05-13-2012 , 08:31 PM

#64

grizy

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The southern realignment happened with Nixon, not Reagan.

05-13-2012 , 10:30 PM

#65

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The southern realignment happened with Nixon, not Reagan.

Actually, it was a gradual process with roots stretching back far earlier.

05-13-2012 , 11:53 PM

#66

grizy

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Actually, it was a gradual process with roots stretching back far earlier.

True, but really came to a head with Nixon.

05-13-2012 , 11:56 PM

#67

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carter seems to be the most likely to induce mets to jump off a building

05-14-2012 , 12:15 AM

#68

Mayo

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The southern realignment happened with Nixon, not Reagan.

???

05-14-2012 , 12:16 AM

#69

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Current vote (I think) is Ronnie +1. We need 2 more peanuts and no more jellybeans imo.

05-14-2012 , 12:18 AM

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Lyndon B Johnson himself admitted that the passage of the Civil Rights Act is gonna cost the Democrats "the South" for a generation.

Republicans took the bait.

Ford losing the South had a lot more to do with his unpopularity as a candidate. By then, the realignment was already in full swing. Some Republicans even flat out admitted they were giving Democrats the African American vote so they could drive more whites to vote Republican.

Last edited by grizy; 05-14-2012 at 12:32 AM.

05-14-2012 , 12:43 AM

#71

Mayo

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Yeah I know that the Civil Rights Act was a huge deal in the Democrats losing the south. But you can't just ignore the Democratic presidential nominee doing well in the south in 1976, 1992, and 1996 imo. To say nothing of all the Democratic governors/congressmen that the deep south kept electing for decades. The "southern relaignment" was far more complicated than just being a simple reaction tot the Civil Rights Act.

05-14-2012 , 01:05 AM

#72

microbet

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Pretty phenomenal how his administration sold weapons to the Iranians in exchage for hostage release and then used the money to fund death squads in central america, people all the way up the the Secretary of Defense were indicted (11 convictions, all pardoned by the then VP, former CIA director and later POTUS) and this goes down as a blip that Reagan isn't held responsible for.

But the economy ruled - with a lot of help from expanding the federal deficit.