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View Poll Results: Who was the greater President?
George Washington 42 75.00%
Thomas Jefferson 14 25.00%
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Old 07-08-2012, 07:07 AM   #16
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Re: Greatest POTUS FINAL - George Washington vs Thomas Jefferson

Who knocked out fdr and teddy?
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:22 AM   #17
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Re: Greatest POTUS FINAL - George Washington vs Thomas Jefferson

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Need to know the following information:

Which one had more slaves?
TJ loved his slaves! Even had some children folk who weren't his own colour

And for that reason I must vote for TJ.
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:57 AM   #18
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Who knocked out fdr and teddy?
Yeah, I think I missed that one.
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Old 07-08-2012, 07:38 PM   #19
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washington ordered his own men hanged on several occasions for insubordination when at war; sometimes for as light an offense as petty thievery.

he once ordered a group of captured traitors to dig their own graves and then ordered them to execute EACHOTHER under threat of torture.

that being said... i still voted for him.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:04 PM   #20
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Which one had more slaves?
Probably need to adjust for inflation.
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he once ordered a group of captured traitors to dig their own graves and then ordered them to execute EACHOTHER under threat of torture..
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he once ordered a group of captured traitors to dig their own graves and then ordered them to execute EACHOTHER under threat of torture.
Who HASN'T done this?
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:30 AM   #23
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Not enough posts here for a vote to count but have followed this with interest.

Washington for one simple reason, he was he first leader of a country to walk away from the top spot and turn the job over to another.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:02 AM   #24
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christopher nolan is a huge GW fan. this scene is basically an homage to him. and to america, really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQHfoz9Be7U#t=1m34s
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:03 PM   #26
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washington ordered his own men hanged on several occasions for insubordination when at war; sometimes for as light an offense as petty thievery.

he once ordered a group of captured traitors to dig their own graves and then ordered them to execute EACHOTHER under threat of torture.

that being said... i still voted for him.
On the list of bad things US Presidents have done, being a strict military commander has to be wayyyy down the list.
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:46 PM   #27
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Slavery was a very thorny issue for Washington and his struggles with it are explained in detail in Ron Chernows excellent biography Washington: A Life. He was basically going broke just feeding and clothing them.
Really? I read somewhere that, adjusted for inflation, Washington was possibly the richest President ever.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...o-obama/57020/

EDIT: Turns out most of the assets was land. He wasn't very liquid.
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:53 PM   #28
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Really? I read somewhere that, adjusted for inflation, Washington was possibly the richest President ever.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...o-obama/57020/
He had tons of land but no liquid wealth. He actually had to borrow money to get to his inauguration. He had constant cash flow problems and was always worried about money. Feeding and housing all of his slaves was a huge drain on his finances since only a portion were productive while many were either children and enfeebled. Of course Jefferson was bankrupt but kept spending and borrowing his entire life a drunken sailor.
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Foregone conclusion is foregone.
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