Remember back when "death panels" was the story of the hour on fox, and now they won't even cover that the GOP is removing the "panels" portion

Doesn't the fact that the counter interest that's being considered is tax cuts for the wealthy make the idea that people will die even worse? At least with speed limits its the fact that everyone has to get somewhere.

Omg hardy har har. Healthcare bill? The dems didn't get it done obv.

Plausible explanation is that Mitch McConnell owes Thanatos, the god of death, some souls, so we should lay off

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/...on-human-souls

Should be noted that 23 million is the amount of people who will lose heath care, not who will die. You won't die automatically by not having healthcare. That would be one hell of an individual mandate

WTF is that Kennedy from 1990s MTV?

I'm pretty sure she's a Fox News slappy now. Falling from fame is never pretty. I'm also pretty certain Adam Curry and Downtown Julie Brown were into some unsavory **** if we want to dig deep enough.

No, but I'm not sure anyone thinks that

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...dded-deaths-g/

emphasis added

I guess we're lucky the GOP is only so blood thirsty that thousands dying is their current target goal.

So people who watch fox are really this stupid? I mean what the **** "we are all going to die" something about a party quantifying a party line to heaven? Does sprint charge extra for that.

I'm not sure if consistent shameless hypocrisy from republicans isn't their worst quality it's in the top 100.

Republians: wtf is a safe space? we have free speech snowflake
Also Republicans: gosh it's kinda mean to talk about how our bill will lead to people dying

A member of the crowd bobbing his head along to the music, Bill Mossor is a 54-year-old former construction worker, disabled since a dump truck pulled into the path of his Suzuki motorcycle on his way to work. He relies on Medicaid, the health program for the poor to which Republicans are proposing deep cuts. Mossor is one of about 513,000 poor or disabled West Virginians who rely on the program.

But he also felt the cuts were worth it in order to tackle the national debt.

“They want all these things kept in that we just can’t afford to keep in,” he said. He said he would rather “suffer now” and reduce the national debt, so his children “can have it better”.

“Just like we have to cut the music programs,” he said. “I hate to see them cut, but they got to be.”


As I've been told recently, the term for this type of thinking is WAAF.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-trump-country

lol @ politifact rating this statement "Mostly" True. Every single source in the article said "thousands" was on the mark. Their rationale for "mostly" was "Well um actually, it's hard to pin down the exact specific number." Oh word? Maybe that's why he just said "thousands" instead of a specific number, dip****.

And thousands was being generous to the GOP. The literature supports a death toll of easily 5k+ annually. He could have correctly said "tens of thousands," since typically the figures discussed about the bill deal with the period 2017-2026.

Of course no one mentions to these people that the vast majority of the savings will not go to the national debt, but instead to the coffers of the super rich. Great reporting, "liberal" media! That hillbilly sure has a point about the national debt; who can say which side is right and which is wrong? Politics is about balance!

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/880350395134087169

Am I seeing this correctly? It looks like Republicans, starting with Ohio, are cutting off Medicaid at the state level.

They are using the argument that Medicaid expansion is responsible for the opiod epidemic, and the continued growth of Medicaid is causing more and more opiod related overdoses.

I'm not sure what to say. Someone tell me I'm misreading things.

This also makes it hard to understand what it means when GOP says they MUST do healthcare reform first, because they need the cuts from that in order to pass tax reform and other big legislation, which aren't revenue neutral. If almost all the cuts from sick and disabled people are being pocketed by the richest 1%, things do not compute.

It's extremely puzzling, because they mean it. GOP actions match their talking points on this one.

I think there's lots of reasons health care had to come first.

If you get your giant tax cut for the rich in the "health care" package, you don't need to put them in the tax reform bill. So then your tax reform bill can be much friendlier to the middle class. And the revenue you're cutting from the rich isn't as obvious to everyone because its being offset by spending cuts disguised as health care reform.

If you did tax reform first you'd have hundreds of billions / trillions of lost revenue and its harder to hide the spending cuts to offset that.

And of course, its also just marketing since this 'health care reform' is 'tax reform'.

lol no, this is to get rid of the Obamacare investment taxes, once it passes tax reform will lower rates. just lol if you think they're done giving money to rich people after this bill passes.

So, the promises made to Americans in Trumpcare (whatever few there are) depend on future bills getting passed in the manner they promise will happen?

That can't be serious.

I don't think they're done.

But by 'hiding' a ****load of taxes for the super rich in the healthcare bill the tax reform will be much 'fairer'.

Ezra Klein wrote a good piece yesterday that Trump is basically just submissive to the GOP now. Trumpism is over with.

So healthcare cuts, tax cuts are the top 2 priorities.

Maybe they throw him a bone on immigration or infrastructure after they get what they want but any "Trumpism" agenda is pretty much dead.

How does Putin and his hold on our president fit in?

I wonder what Bill Bellamy is up to these days.

I thought you guys were joking - I can't believe that's Kennedy from MTV. Some great stuff from her wiki:

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Dan Quayle supporter IRL.

Also, lol at Kurt Loder.

Yep, seems to be exactly right.