I had a friend who was deaf. although I haven't really been in touch with him since I moved to a new city. I met him through, oddly enough, swing dancing. He was quite good despite not being able to hear a thing. I picked up just a little ASL, but I wish I had learned more. I could be lazy, though, because one of our mutual friends was a professional interpreter.

JimAfternoon has been seen recently dabbling in the unchained ACists-anarchy thread, so kinda reasonable expect us all your government to be failures FWIW.

Yeah, it's this, actually. Jim actually hasn't said much about Medicare, but when he did, it was all about the projections that show how deep in debt we will be from Medicare 70 years from now if not another American is born.

Its definitely one of those things you need to do regularly or you'll lose it.

One of my republican friends bitched about obamacare for month. I finally asked him what about it is bothering him so much. Turned out his dad believes it's going to ruin his business. He has 4 employees. He also quoted Rand Paul (I believe) demanding that Obama "gets on obamacare" if it's so awesome.
I told him the employer mandate doesn't apply for businesses under 50 employees and that Obamacare isn't an insurance plan you can get, Obama and congress are as "extempt" from it as anybody else with a semi-decent plan and that even plans through the exchanges are still private.
After this "insight" (quote) he told me a day latter he is in the fence about it now. Leaving aside that a guy with a pretty successful business still doesn't know that he doesn't have to provide health insurance to his employees, why aren't there any pacs or whatever explaining this basic stuff to ppl? That little info was apparently all it took to significantly change the attitude of an otherwise die hard republican who stated before he would hang Obama from a tree if he could.

That's truly evil genius! I didn't even consider that play.

I'm sorry, but I just don't want to believe it. Now what? I'd much rather remain a zombified corporate apologist. Quit posting your made up truth graphs! I'd rather deal in conjecture please.

I can do better... lol loooool LOL

What you got?

I think I'm just going to randomly go across 2+2 and post lol to people's post. Get ready mods...

SS would still be solvent if politicians didn't find a way to spend the money and only people that put money in could draw from it (I'm including home makers from single income homes).

*sigh

SS is not a burden on the US economy.

Wow, still trotting out talking points that were debunked at least two presidential election cycles old?

Are you really on medicare? Aren't you on medicaid?

No because my disability is long term. I was on Medicaid until my benefits kicked in. I think it was a 5 month waiting period after I was approved. So basically about 14-16 months after I first applied for disability. My insurance card is my SS#. Hospital is Part A and Medical is Part B.

Part A is insanely better than Part B. I had to go to emergency room about 2 years ago. I fell and thought I broke some ribs. I went to ER for X-rays and ****. They gave me Percocets and I never got a bill. Part B is generally 20% out of pocket.

It's actually kind of interesting how I ended up getting disability. I was working and lost my job in 2009. I had been working full time since I graduated HS in 1994. After I lost my job, I decided to go to college. But I didn't want to not have health insurance. One of my friends basically said "Dude, you are deaf, you can get Medicare." It just never occurred to me that I could qualify. I went online and found out the success rate for getting disability is pretty bad unless you have a lawyer. So I went to a lawyer and she represented me. I was approved on 1st try. Entire process took about 9 months but the Medicare wouldn't kick in until the waiting period was over. So for that 5 month period I had Medicaid. Been on Medicare ever since.

Crazy part is that even though entire process took 9 months and I had to see my lawyer and 2 or 3 doctors, I spent maybe 10 minutes at each office. But it was spaced out over that 9 month period. Could have had it done in a half hour if there wasn't so much red tape involved.

Did you read what I posted? If so were did you read that I stated it was a drain on the economy?

SS is solvent.

For now, sort of.

The problem is not today, 5 years or 10 years from now. If either benefits are not recalculated (cut) or if the amount of money that is collected (taxes) does not go up they will not be able to meet the projected benefits promised by 2037. Now the real problem is Medicare and SSDI. Those are both going to run in the red much much sooner. Those are the ones that need the urgent attention not SS. We have decades to figure that one out.

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/trsum/

cue dvaut1 ss rant

It wont explode til Jan 2014. Please blame Obama and Dems at the ballot box.

lol

I get my heath insurance 100% covered, but for my wife, our premiums are going down 10% in January. Thanks Obama!

OK so what is this whole purpose of the vote tonight exactly? Obama has said for over a year he will veto anything that cuts Obamacare and won't negotiate over it. The vote is not expected to pass anyway but why did the GOP do it anyway? Just makes no sense and seems like a waste of time.

They think they're scoring points.

and your other out of pocket expenses?

I could understand it if Obama barely won the election or lost the popular vote and you want to make a point. But this seems LOL bad.

What are the out of pocket expenses for someone with a preexisting condition that then gets sick?