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04-08-2011 , 08:41 AM
I was thinking of starting another thread, entitled "how the shutdown affects me," but I guess it's better just to add on here:

There are two immediate impacts on my life. First, the government won't be issuing any checks on my assigned cases (and in fact, has already substantially slowed doing so over the past 2 months), just in time for the tax bill. Second, my daughter's school trip to DC might be canceled.
04-08-2011 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Brons
Wouldn't it be awesome if the Democrats would show some teeth and offer a different plan that would end the Bush tax cuts and end corporate welfare? The Reps will obviously reject the plan but it will probably get some points in the polls.
I'm pretty sure that wouldn't play well with the handfull of swing voters in Ohio and Florida who decide the fate of the free world every 4 years.
04-08-2011 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Brons
Wouldn't it be awesome if the Democrats would show some teeth and offer a different plan that would end the Bush tax cuts and end corporate welfare? The Reps will obviously reject the plan but it will probably get some points in the polls.

You mean like this one?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...A3vC_blog.html

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The very short version is that it relies heavily on taxes, particularly on the rich and on corporations, and emphasizes a number of investments that we can and should make in things such as infrastructure and early-childhood education. On first glance, it might rely a bit too heavily on taxes, but then, Ryan’s plan relies much too heavily on spending cuts. And from a political-economy perspective, it’s much more courageous to propose taxes on the rich and powerful than spending cuts on the poor and disabled.
Link includes another link to the PDF of the plan.
04-08-2011 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Wynton
"how the shutdown affects me,"

I am breaking into Shenandoah National Park tonight and staying for two nights.

Also I'm assuming my sister who is a gvrnmnt contracted meteorologist wont be going in Monday.

__________



Odds of a shutdown at this point? Over 95% its shutdown for at least a day?
04-08-2011 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by obsidian
So if that's the case, then get rid of the post office monopoly as clearly no one else could do what they do.
I don't hear FedEx or UPS asking for that. I think even a duopoly would be a market failure. Having the Post Office compete in a declining industry wouldn't serve consumers or the Profit Gods. I'm fiercely anti-monopoly, but this is as close to a beneficial one as I can think of.
04-08-2011 , 09:27 AM
Just heard,
Q-"So the $ figures are the only pertinent factors in the current budget debate, if the President were to call you today and agree to your number, would you sign the bill? "

A-"Well, we'd definitely look at the language and if it agrees with the views of the American people, we could possibly come to an agreement"

Q-"But you said the only important factor is the amount of spending"

A-"We should have asked for more"

Shut er down boys, the time machine works well in 2011
04-08-2011 , 09:28 AM
I found out yesterday that, by some convolution of the word, I am considered an "essential" employee. Sooooo, no vacay for timmay.
04-08-2011 , 09:32 AM
Now that I think about it, I am pretty damn important.
04-08-2011 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by wiper
who cares whether it does/doesn't?
About 80% of Washington DC area cares.

Also people who are waiting for their tax returns.
04-08-2011 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by timotheeeee
I found out yesterday that, by some convolution of the word, I am considered an "essential" employee. Sooooo, no vacay for timmay.
Where in the gubmint are you employed?
04-08-2011 , 09:52 AM
Not alot of mention of the Military in this thread. I'm in the military and if this budget dosn't get passed I as of tomorrow will be working for free. All the men and women over seas risking their lives getting shot at by men that aim to kill them, will no longer be getting paid. you want to talk about a blow to someone and the country they are fighting for. So i as you. Is this a talking point to "shutdown"
the government or is this real **** that impacts every military member out there. Write your congressmen or women and tell them to pull their head out of their @$$ and get this thing passed!

U.S. out
04-08-2011 , 09:58 AM
Unfortunately I've read that the military will still get paid, it's just delayed.
04-08-2011 , 10:09 AM
Everyone will eventually get paid, but that is small comfort for the families that rely on paychecks every week, as I'm sure happens with much of the military.
04-08-2011 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by timotheeeee
Now that I think about it, I am pretty damn important.
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Originally Posted by qdmcg
Where in the gubmint are you employed?
IE - do you work in defense, or are you a pampered blood-sucking parasite?
04-08-2011 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by General Tsao
Unfortunately I've read that the military will still get paid, it's just delayed.
Everyone who works will get paid, which is one reason those not deemed essential must go home. They can't volunteer to assist, or act in any way against congressional protocols about pay. Any worker who doesn't go home could be fired. How's that for irony.
04-08-2011 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
IE - do you work in defense, or are you a pampered blood-sucking parasite?
I clerk for a judge. I knew he was essential, and I help with some of the judge's essential duties, but I figured repairing roads was a smidgen more critical than researching and drafting. There are probably a lot of things that won't get funded that are more valuable to the country than what I do.
04-08-2011 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by General Tsao
Unfortunately I've read that the military will still get paid, it's just delayed.
How is it unfortunate that the military still gets paid? I'm a soldier and will receive half a paycheck next Thursday. I'm single and good with money so this isn't going to hurt me all that much, but enlisted families with a few kids are up a creek. It's not like the government is going to feed us or agree to let us not pay rent until they get this **** figured out. I'm still going to work from 6am-5pm and I don't see how it's "unfortunate" that I will be eventually be paid for this.

It's beyond frustrating not to get paid in full on time with no concrete idea on when that money is coming. And a ****ing hassle besides. This isn't a staking agreement gone south. It's the ****ing US government.
04-08-2011 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
How is it unfortunate that the military still gets paid?
because the military industrial complex, maaaaannnn
04-08-2011 , 02:52 PM
how the **** is a judge's clerk "essential" but actively engaged military personnel are not?

Any politician that runs on a platform of "supporting the troops" should be drawn and quartered in front of the Washington monument
04-08-2011 , 02:55 PM
lol liberals

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...home-saturday/

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Democratic activists, angry that Washington residents pay taxes but have no voting representation in Congress, have set up a Facebook page to urge protesters to dump their trash outside Boehner's home if the government shuts down Friday night.
04-08-2011 , 03:07 PM
The Republican position on abortion makes no sense. They're making it more difficult for the poor to get an abortion. Don't they know the poor raises future Democrats.
04-08-2011 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by iNeedScissors61
yeah except that it's a little more than just zero voting rights. For some reason the DC city government is not allowed to provide a lot of standard city services to residents - that has to come from the federal government. So while the government shut down really won't significantly affect non-federal employees in say LA or NYC, it's going to have a much bigger impact on us DC folk.
04-08-2011 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jogsxyz
The Republican position on abortion makes no sense. They're making it more difficult for the poor to get an abortion. Don't they know the poor raises future Democrats.
What makes even less sense to me is that republicans oppose abortion on moral grounds related to "protecting the most vulnerable". But as soon as the kid is born they suddenly don't give a **** whether he gets adequate medical care or food.
04-08-2011 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by surftheiop
What makes even less sense to me is that republicans oppose abortion on moral grounds related to "protecting the most vulnerable". But as soon as the kid is born they suddenly don't give a **** whether he gets adequate medical care or food.
Lolpublicans, but really there is no inconsistency in that. They are just against what they think is murder both before and after birth. It isn't like they are feeding unborn babies. The inconsistency is that they are pro death in other places.

      
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