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Old 10-06-2011, 03:46 PM   #16
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It's not overblown if they can tip a few districts and maybe even a state from dem to republican over this.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:50 PM   #17
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FYI and discussion: Rick Perry signed a bill passed by the Texas Legislature this year that disallows (it was previously allowed) students at state universities from using their student ID as an acceptable form of voter ID but allows people to use their concealed handgun permit. Hmmmmm
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:52 PM   #18
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Wow someone should show proof of citizenship and have a picture ID to vote. What a GOP conspircy to steal the election.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:53 PM   #19
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Yes, it is exactly that. Just because you say it sarcastically doesn't make it true.

So you're cool with my idea to make welfare and medicaid recipients get ID and register to vote before receiving their benefits right?
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:59 PM   #20
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Lol "GOP war on voting". Please tell me how requiring someone to show their drivers licence or a government id discriminatory.
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It's discriminatory because poor people are way way less likely to have ID, and there's no reason to require them to have one (other than the obvious of winning the election).
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:03 PM   #21
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Yes, it is exactly that. Just because you say it sarcastically doesn't make it true.

So you're cool with my idea to make welfare and medicaid recipients get ID and register to vote before receiving their benefits right?
Everyone has a right to vote. No problem with them voting. Would also like them to be required to work for their check.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:04 PM   #22
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Lol "GOP war on voting". Please tell me how requiring someone to show their drivers licence or a government id discriminatory.
The whole ****ing point is to come up with bizarre barriers to cross that are ostensibly not discriminatory but are. How are poll taxes discriminatory? Grandfather clauses? Literacy tests? Eight box laws? In each case, the law is superficially non discriminatory but overwhelmingly disenfranchised poor people and minorities.

How it's discriminatory:

- come up with a litany of documents required to procure government ID
- empower registers to arbitrarily enforce the requirements.

To wit:

http://timesfreepress.com/news/2011/...eaucrat-tells/

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Dorothy Cooper is 96 but she can remember only one election when she's been eligible to vote but hasn't.

The retired domestic worker was born in a small North Georgia town before women had the right to vote. She began casting ballots in her 20s after moving to Chattanooga for work. She missed voting for John F. Kennedy in 1960 because a move to Nashville prevented her from registering in time.

So when she learned last month at a community meeting that under a new state law she'd need a photo ID to vote next year, she talked with a volunteer about how to get to a state Driver Service Center to get her free ID. But when she got there Monday with an envelope full of documents, a clerk denied her request.

That morning, Cooper slipped a rent receipt, a copy of her lease, her voter registration card and her birth certificate into a Manila envelope. Typewritten on the birth certificate was her maiden name, Dorothy Alexander.

"But I didn't have my marriage certificate," Cooper said Tuesday afternoon, and that was the reason the clerk said she was denied a free voter ID at the Cherokee Boulevard Driver Service Center.
"IDs are easy to acquire, and free!!!!" are nice cute GOP talking points to trot out, but yes, it's often a burden for 96 year old black people to get to an office and then produce the litany of documents a white Tennessee bureaucrat might require and approve of.

The GOP knows the type of people who are qualified voters are going to have a tough time meeting the ID requirements are poor and/or black. The GOP media machines know they can frighten their anger bears to agitate for voter ID laws by shouting ACORN and FRAUD and TONY ROMO MICKEY MOUSE in the same sentence enough. Strategy crafted and now implemented.

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Hmmm, which banned poster are you? I'm going to guess the initials NVE

It's discriminatory because poor people are way way less likely to have ID, and there's no reason to require them to have one (other than the obvious of winning the election).
Really in this day and age with ID theft etc. you do not see where making sure someone is who they say they are, actually entitled to vote and there is no fraud in the elections a good thing.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:14 PM   #24
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Really in this day and age with ID theft etc. you do not see where making sure someone is who they say they are, actually entitled to vote and there is no fraud in the elections a good thing.
You can of course also present a large amount of examples of stolen votes, considering the day and age with ID theft etc.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:17 PM   #25
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No, not if it was required of everyone.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:19 PM   #26
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Time for a universal retinal-scan system (like the kind that was ubiquitous in "Minority Report").

Personally, I think it would be cool never to have to carry ID around, even if Big Brother always knew where I was.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:19 PM   #27
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There has never, Ever, been shown to be a problem which ID solves.

IDing voters disenfranchises people, a proven fact, and yet there is no benefit from doing so. None.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:45 PM   #29
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It's not overblown if they can tip a few districts and maybe even a state from dem to republican over this.
I'm sorry, but requiring people to show an appropriate ID is hardly worthy of the title 'War on Voting.'
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