Yes

Well, it wasn't implied so much as it was stated because it was the results of a Bush administration investigation in 2007

Thought Jonathan Tobin had a nice read concerning the idea of voter IDs causing suppression. Seems hard to make a case about this being a big problem, but some seem to be trying.

"Voter ID is Not Voter Suppression"

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/20...ism-elections/

That article is terrible. He basically says nothing. A few paragraphs of unsubstantiated denial, then some talk about Jim Crow laws, then 5 paragraphs of rambling about repubs and dems distrusting each other that has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not these efforts are aimed at black/poor voters disproportionately.

Obviously he never mentions the roughly zero cases of actual voter fraud that has been discovered. No one really doubts that these efforts are aimed at disenfranchising poor and black voters disproportionately. The Koch Brothers wouldn't be giving millions to the American Legislative Exchange Council to stop the 8 cases of voter fraud uncovered over the last decade.

What does that even mean? I read on waiting for him to elaborate but he just changed subjects and rambled about mistrust.

Lol at that article. Should have stopped reading after perusing some article titles on the side of the page.

Funny how he shouts down the idea of "dog whistle" racism in almost the same breath as one in which he utters some of those same terms. *CoughUrbanVotersAreTheRealCheatsCough*

This part was pretty lol too:

Disenfranchisement is bad, but tricking your opponent's voters in to not voting is just innocent political tactics. I think I see why this scum**** has such an issue seeing the problem with requiring IDs.

LOL at 0:20

lol nothing to see here

its not denial its fact. yes you can live without an ID, nearly noone does, and anyone that wants one can get one near instantly.

Please tell me how an 80-year-old black person in rural Alabama with no car and no birth certificate is going to instantly get an ID?

Are you literally incapable of putting yourself in anyone else but a suburban white person's shoes?

Why do you honestly think the republicans are spending millions on these initiatives if it's really that easy to instantly get an ID? Do you honestly think they're worried about the 8 cases of voter fraud verified in the last decade? Or do you think they're just stupid and mistakenly believe poorer people who tend to vote democrat will have a hard time getting an ID?

People shouldn't be required to have a govt ID. That being said, hearty lolz@voter fraud is no big deal.

I'd rather voter fraud be rampant than people be required to have an ID I guess, just ****ty situation all around. Get rid of the govt and problem solved.

You've been presented with reputable citations contrary to this ITT. I mean, I like you, dude, but start providing citations to support your assumptions or I'm going to start loling at your obstinance.

And again, even if "nearly no one" lacks an official government (err, GOP) approved ID, then how does that number compare to the number of people who try to commit vote fraud? Because the number of people who try to commit vote fraud is amazingly small as best we can tell, and even if the percent of the population that lacks ID is around 0.1%, and then we halve that due to the expected turnout of people in an election, then that still dwarfs the amount of vote fraud that has been found to occur, despite many careful investigations. Surely you'd agree that a vote disenfranchised is as bad as an ineligible vote cast, right?

how is he going to go anywhere? how is he going to go vote? not hard to get an id. and he can get birth cert from the health dept. but he can also show up with a family bible. its not that hard to go to the dmv and get an id.

Serious question to those who think asking for ID to vote is unreasonable. Are businesses(airlines,hotels,places that sell alcohol,banks,car rentals)that require ID racist? Obviously requiring someone to have ID to do business with your company will disproportionally keep minorities away from your business.

80 year old grandma doesn't need an id to buy liquor

I would like to see some significant examples of voter fraud that would have been prevented by picture ID.

Businesses are private entities and, for the most part, can set the terms on which they do business with the public. The government, on the other hand, can't unreasonably burden the public's ability to do certain things (e.g., vote). What's an unreasonable burden depends on the activity (e.g., drivers' licenses for the ability to travel via car is fine, but poll taxes aren't).

I guess it's debateable whether requiring an ID to vote is unreasonably burdensome, but the right to vote is as fundamental as it gets, so any burden should be viewed with suspicion, especially when one group feels the burden disproportionately.

Also, those businesses are responding to actual threats of fraud/crime.

I think no ID should be required at all. Rather, you should be able to state a name, then vote under that name.

In the case of someone showing up voting under the same name later, that person should be given a chance to vote too so as to prevent anyone from being disenfranchised.

Plus -- I think dead people should be able to vote too. I don't recall the Constitution telling you your voting rights are removed when you die.

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Sorry, I couldn't help that. The idea that people should be able to vote with extremely little to no verification is complete comedy to me.

Who is saying that there should be "extremely little to no verification?"

Political parties trying to get groups of people to vote for them and getting other groups of people who typically don't vote for them not to vote at all is a totally new and disgusting idea. However, I have no issues with the way Dems pay voters for votes.

the steam, I'll just answer your actual question:

Yes, the liberals you know IRL think you're racist. They probably talk about you behind your back. Sorry.

lol

I guess I misread. What level of verification do you feel is acceptable to prove you are who you say you are?

look voting is a privilege. there is nothing wrong with requiring id when it comes to a privileged. no different than driving.

Wat. This is utterly false.