The GOP war on voting - Page 129 - Politics and Economics

New poll out shows around 50% of republicans would be okay with trump suspending elections due to concerns over the made up voter fraud issue.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f2deea0f62a3

Is that deplorable enough? Canceling democracy because of the bogeyman?

08-11-2017 , 12:14 AM

#3203

6ix

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol

goddamn that is just ****ing infuriating to read

I predicted the revolt and revolution would happen when this all came to light but I woefully overestimated how much it would infuriate the average person.

08-13-2017 , 09:42 PM

#3204

Paramecium

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Great summary thread of all the current voter suppression republicans are using - to present to the "I just don't see what the big deal is with having an ID" crowd.

08-17-2017 , 08:51 PM

#3205

Namath12

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Erstwhile GOP Senate candidate Mo Brooks of lolabama was unable to vote for himself in the primary the other day because his name had been purged from the voter rolls.

lolabama

08-17-2017 , 09:57 PM

#3206

Huehuecoyotl

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Texas ran afoul of the Voting Rights Act by restricting the interpretation assistance English-limited voters may receive at the ballot box, a federal appeals court found.

In an opinion issued Wednesday, a three-judge panel of the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that an obscure provision of the Texas Election Code that requires interpreters helping someone cast a ballot to also be registered to vote in the same county in which they are providing help clashes with federal voting protections.

That Texas law, the court found, violates a less-known section of the Voting Rights Act under which any voter who needs assistance because of visual impairments, disabilities or literacy skills can be helped in casting a ballot by the person of their choice, as long as it’s not their employer or a union leader.

'Texas ran afoul of the Voting Rights Act' should be trademarked

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/08...ent=1503014457

08-24-2017 , 02:50 PM

#3207

goofyballer

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

'Texas ran afoul of the Voting Rights Act' should be trademarked

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/08...ent=1503014457

Continuing with this theme, Texas Voter ID Law 2.0: Electric Boogaloo is struck down again by federal judge

Quote:

The Republican-controlled Legislature softened the law, in response to legal challenges and court rulings, by allowing potential voters to sign an affidavit and show more widely available types of identification, including a utility bill or a bank statement. The new law, known as Senate Bill 5, was set to take effect in January, despite complaints from critics that it created criminal penalties for those who made false claims about needing to use alternate IDs.

In her ruling, Judge Ramos noted that the retooled law still barred voters from showing state or federal employee ID cards.

Because those who lack the accepted forms of identification were “subjected to separate voting obstacles and procedures,” Judge Ramos wrote, “S.B. 5’s methodology remains discriminatory because it imposes burdens disproportionately on blacks and Latinos.”

Texas' response is, "well, Jeff Sessions told us it was okay!":

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“Today’s ruling is outrageous,” the Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, said in a statement, adding, “The U.S. Department of Justice is satisfied that the amended voter ID law has no discriminatory purpose or effect.”

rofl

08-24-2017 , 03:53 PM

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In a world where we survive Trump, and Dems control House/Senate/White House in 2020 or 2022, Republicans will obviously filibuster any attempt at a strengthening of the Voting Rights Act by re-writing the coverage formula to address the outcome in Shelby County v. Holder, right?

Beyond that, any attempt at sweeping legislation to stop voter suppression and gerrymandering faces a filibuster and likely gets struck down by the SCOTUS even if it passes, right?

In other words, it seems like WAAF on this issue for quite some time. Can anyone give me some hope here?

08-24-2017 , 04:02 PM

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Namath12

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I have very little hope for the foreseeable future thanks to the stolen SCOTUS seat unless we get a Dem prez in 2020 and Kennedy/Thomas survive until after that.

08-25-2017 , 05:02 PM

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stinkubus

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I see little to lose for the state legislatures to continue passing garbage bills every election year. The election will be over by the time the court challenges are finished. They could have patently unconstitutional restrictions in place for every election without consequence?

08-25-2017 , 05:08 PM

#3211

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by stinkubus

In a sane world, states that do this, or, like Texas and North Carolina that were proven in court to have an intent to discriminate, would be put back on the preclearance list and require DOJ approval for any voting restrictions to take effect. Lol at this meaning anything in this world.

08-25-2017 , 05:12 PM

#3212

stinkubus

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Meh, a Sessions-led DOJ would just rubber stamp that nonsense. Did Wisconsin ever end up handing out free IDs to everyone? I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember that being the result of a court challenge to their voter ID laws?

08-25-2017 , 05:34 PM

#3213

Loki

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The extra perk of all the changing rules is that the underclass of America is further disincentived from voting because they have less chance of being able to keep up with all the legal challenges and changing information. In many cases, poll workers can't keep up either and just flat out lie to anyone they judge as being not worthy of the right of voting.

08-25-2017 , 06:32 PM

#3214

Neuge

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Originally Posted by stinkubus

I don't know what the end result was but the state secretary of transportation definitely got caught ordering the dmvs to not offer the free ID unless the customer brought it up first.

08-27-2017 , 08:11 PM

#3215

Victor

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Originally Posted by cuserounder

nope. repubs are in control of our government for the rest of our lifes unless there is some sort of revolution.

09-09-2017 , 03:33 AM

#3216

Chips Ahoy

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This is good news from Virginia. Hopefully it catches on. Any system without a paper ballot can't be trusted.

09-09-2017 , 03:21 PM

#3217

Dance Me Outside

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New Hampshire GOP targeting the student vote.

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A new Republican-backed state law known as SB 3 tightens the rules for people who register and vote on the same day—about 11 percent of all New Hampshire voters last November. These would-be voters can be hit with a $5,000 fine if they vote and can’t show documentary proof of where they live.

Quote:

The real intent of SB 3 seems clear: to curb same-day voter registration, and hence Democratic turnout, in the Granite State. But cutting voting among the homeless and others with unstable living situations only gets Republicans so far, since those populations already tend not to vote at high rates. The more important goal—one with real potential to swing some elections—is to suppress the student vote.

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The 2016 election underscored a basic reality of American politics: the smaller the electorate, the better Republicans do. That means any GOP strategy for holding on to power has to include a plan to keep Democratic voters from the polls. And so, if states are the laboratories of democracy, New Hampshire is serving as a testing ground for the party’s Trump-era strategy on voting...

https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-pe...ampaign=buffer

09-12-2017 , 05:18 PM

#3218

suzzer99

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"what needs to be done" - sounds like the mob

09-12-2017 , 05:35 PM

#3219

goofyballer

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"If they are picking mainstream Republican officials and/or academics to man this commission it will be an abject failure because there aren't any that know anything about this or who have paid any attention to this issue over the years."

LOL. The only people qualified to be on the voter fraud commission are on the far right!

09-12-2017 , 06:03 PM

#3220

suzzer99

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Notice how vague the wording is. They can't just come out and say "know about actual voter fraud" because there is none.

09-12-2017 , 06:13 PM

#3221

suzzer99

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The Heritage Foundation is scrupulously non-partisan. OMG OMG HA HA OW WOW - WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE AREN'T WE?

Glad the dude made it onto the panel!

09-14-2017 , 06:29 AM

#3222

RainierWolfcastle

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Kobach is one of the few real experts out there, guys

10-03-2017 , 11:08 PM

#3223

Loki

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https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...-slaps-gorsuch

Ginsburg, ever the boss, verbally ***** slaps Gorsuch for being a know-nothing pedant

10-04-2017 , 05:37 AM

#3224

True North

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...-slaps-gorsuch

Ginsburg, ever the boss, verbally ***** slaps Gorsuch for being a know-nothing pedant

****er's going to be worse than Scalia. And I never thought I would say that about anyone.

10-04-2017 , 07:55 AM

#3225

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Just came here to post that if I were a Supreme Court justice who referred to a study as "sociological gobbledygook" from the bench I would immediately resign for fear of my own incompetence.

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