The GOP war on voting - Page 120 - Politics and Economics

Alright. Hopefully it's a false report. I haven't verified it or anything, I'm just trying to pass along useful information. I'll update if I find out anything.

11-08-2016 , 02:47 PM

#2978

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by einbert

Alright. Hopefully it's a false report. I haven't verified it or anything, I'm just trying to pass along useful information. I'll update if I find out anything.

Everyone has cameras now. If something like that happens there will be instant video.

11-08-2016 , 03:10 PM

#2979

Csaba

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/elect...-2016-37899679

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The Trump campaign is suing a county registrar in Nevada for keeping polling stations open late on an early voting day.

It accuses Joe P Gloria, the Clark County registrar of voters, of keeping polling locations open "two hours beyond the designated closing time".

In response, county spokesman Dan Kulin told the broadcaster CNN that only voters already in line at closing time had been allowed to stay and vote.

Trump's lawyers are also asking for the early voting ballots to be kept separate from other votes, CNN adds.

11-08-2016 , 03:22 PM

#2980

Jake7777

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Trump's lawyers are also asking for the early voting ballots to be kept separate from other votes, CNN adds.

Obv the correct response to this:

11-08-2016 , 04:08 PM

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11-08-2016 , 04:09 PM

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11-09-2016 , 07:58 PM

#2983

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Originally Posted by einbert

I'm a little concerned about the guy in the KISS costume as well.

11-11-2016 , 02:04 AM

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dzikijohnny

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I worked as a voting judge for a number of years. My worry about all this talk about we can't do this because it will supress votes and such worries me. But, if you wanted to steal an election just keep the rules as they are now. It's really easy to do it.

11-11-2016 , 09:22 PM

#2985

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by dzikijohnny

How, in your opinion, did we go from a substantial representation of black people in Congress from the South in the reconstruction years to a span of decades without a single one?

11-12-2016 , 12:53 PM

#2986

Dean Manifest

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Originally Posted by Inso0

You're right.

goofyballer, can you think of anything the GOP does or stands for that you don't believe is motivated solely by bigotry?

There's no wrong answer here. You are entitled to your opinion.

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Originally Posted by CPHoya

Not with regard to vote suppression, no.

Which is illegal by the way.

I'm gonna be a nit here, but suppressing the black vote is all about the bottom line of stealing elections. The RNC would suppress their own grandmothers' votes if they found out they were voting Democrat 90% of the time.

Many of you won't care about this distinction, but I think it's important to distinguish discrimination that comes from hate and discrimination that comes from pragmatism. Both must be fought, but the nature of that fight depends in part on the root cause. If there were a dozen Asian men in a small town who were all known to be rich, and they kept getting mugged, it would be stupid to attempt to solve the problem through diversity training. The muggers are robbing Asians because they are greedy and immoral, the same reason republicans suppress the black vote.

If the main reason you're running around calling out the R word is for social brownie points, then there's nothing to see here. Grab a wine glass, kick back, and enjoy the smell of your own farts.

11-12-2016 , 01:35 PM

#2987

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Originally Posted by Dean Manifest

Doesn't seem like being greedy and immoral is functionally that much different than just being racist in the course of American history. They both intertwine. But you're not wrong.

11-12-2016 , 01:38 PM

#2988

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Originally Posted by heehaww

GOP response: wow, 1/5 of all Black people are felons? That is a problem, somebody needs to fix black culture.

Or fix the system that makes it far more likely that blacks will be arrested, tried, convicted, and sentenced to longer prison terms than whites.

11-12-2016 , 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Peter

Or fix the system that makes it far more likely that blacks will be arrested, tried, convicted, and sentenced to longer prison terms than whites.

that is not the GOP response. The GOP response is "black people need to fix their culture"

11-12-2016 , 01:51 PM

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Black Peter

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

that is not the GOP response. The GOP response is "black people need to fix their culture"

True! I was reading too quickly.

11-12-2016 , 03:19 PM

#2991

kerowo

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How many crimes are successfully solved and prosecuted by the police in your world?

11-13-2016 , 12:21 PM

#2992

lycosid

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Originally Posted by Dean Manifest

You skipped the part about why 90% of blacks votes democrat in the first place. That should help fill in the gap in your understanding.

11-13-2016 , 10:11 PM

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https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...-at-the-polls/

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The integrity of U.S. elections depends on every eligible American being able to cast a vote that is counted. Yet this year, the first presidential election in 50 years without the full protection of the Voting Rights Act, many Americans across the country were blocked from having their voices heard in the democratic process.

States have gone on a spree restricting voting rights and voter access since 2010, when Republican-controlled state legislatures began passing voter ID laws and other provisions making it more difficult to vote.1 Once the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in Shelby County v. Holder in 2013, even more states made it harder to vote in ways that were targeted at and fell disproportionately on people of color, young people, and low-income people. Even after major legal victories for voting rights this year—rulings that showed voter suppression tactics presented a grave danger and would prevent eligible Americans from casting their ballots—14 states had new voting restrictions in place for the first time in a presidential election. These included cutting back early voting, restricting voter registration, and imposing strict voter ID requirements. It is difficult to say definitively how voter suppression laws affect voter participation and exactly how many citizens were prevented from voting. But one analysis in 2014 found a decline in voter participation of 2 percentage points to 3 percentage points that was attributable to changes in voter ID requirements.2

While final totals are to come, approximately 43 percent of eligible Americans and 47 percent of adults over 18 years old did not participate in this election.3 Some of them chose not to participate, while others were prevented from participating because of state voter suppression laws. A review of some of the challenges voters faced during early voting periods and when casting their ballots on Election Day reveals the impact of voter suppression laws.

Restrictive photo ID requirements
In 2014, Wisconsin passed a strict photo ID law requiring voters to show specific, restrictive forms of identification at the polls.4 It is significant that only 27,000 votes currently separate President-elect Donald Trump and Secretary Hillary Clinton when 300,000 registered voters in the state lacked the strict forms of voter ID required.5 Wisconsin’s voter turnout was at its lowest level in two decades.6 Voter turnout in Milwaukee, where 70 percent of the state’s African American population lives, decreased by 13 percent;7 this meant 41,000 fewer votes. Milwaukee Election Commission Executive Director Neil Albrecht reports that the voter ID restrictions depressed turnout, saying “We saw some of the greatest declines in districts we projected would have most trouble with voter ID requirements.”8

Wisconsin’s photo ID law was initially struck down by a lower court,9 but it was upheld by the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals based on the state’s assurances that free IDs would be provided.10 The Wisconsin government failed to live up to its promise, and the court intervened and ordered the state to take steps to ensure that no one would be prevented from voting on account of the voter ID law.11 Despite these efforts, the law prevented several identified people, as well as an untold number of other registered citizens, from casting their ballots.12

11-14-2016 , 02:53 AM

#2994

PocketChads

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I don't understand

The main reason is brownie points? What can you do at all times not be a self fart sniffer?

I'm sure it's just lolme but it seems like there's something missing that I don't etc

Like I'm sure it's missing because it's assumed, but I don't know what it is

11-16-2016 , 02:38 AM

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Brazen. Good for Kander. An unacceptable choice to lead the DOJ

11-16-2016 , 02:46 AM

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goofyballer

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Kander is a boss, too bad he's wasted on Missouri.

11-16-2016 , 03:11 AM

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Loki

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Originally Posted by Klingbard

Brazen. Good for Kander. An unacceptable choice to lead the DOJ

Kobach is well known in Kansas for rigging an election for the sitting republican governor and then when confronted with statistics highlighting that fact, screaming that all his critics were nazis and communists and refusing to let any investigation happen.

11-16-2016 , 05:08 AM

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assortednuts

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

Yeah, but ACORN is out there registering Mickey Mouse. Fraud! It's happening! And we can't track it! And homeless people can totally get ID easily, because I was able to get ID easily. In fact, I already have one!

Give me a friggin break. Just for once would a conservative, right winger, republican, or whatever you prefer to identify yourself as please do one simple thing. Get your facts straight! Acorn never registered anyone one to vote. They, and other groups like them, righties included attempt to get people to register to vote. And, some attempt to get you to register AS a Dem or GOP. However all they do is take down info and turn it over to their county ELECTED officials whose job it is to verify whether the person is okay. As far as voter fraud is concerned, where are all the arrests? Plus, why are you just assuming if someone were to vote illegally, that they would vote as a Dem? Classic case of the cure will kill you, but do you really want that sore toe for a week? Come on, look into your Fox news stories before you repeat them as fact first.