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Google Buses: The Great San Francisco Tragedy of Gentrification and Bus Stop Abuse Google Buses: The Great San Francisco Tragedy of Gentrification and Bus Stop Abuse

02-23-2017 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NMcNasty
So the buses are being regulated and have to pay fees. Not exactly a "win" compared to not having that, but I suppose when there are angry hippies trying to chase them out of the city it is.

Anyway lol at pre-Trump issues.
It's a win considering this is exactly what google and other bus operators were trying to do when this whole thing blew up.
02-23-2017 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pvn
It's a win considering this is exactly what google and other bus operators were trying to do when this whole thing blew up.
Yeah after people started complaining. Before that there was no regulation and no fees. Some people, in this forum at least, held the position that no one should have been complaining in the first place, and therefore there was no need for regulation and/or fees.
02-23-2017 , 05:54 PM
people complain about all sorts of stuff. especially in SF. That in and of itself doesn't mean there needs to be regulation. ANd I'm not really sure what the problem is here, google does something that is a massive improvement for everyone (less traffic, less emissions), the people using this private service are all taxpayers, google offers to kick in some extra cash on top of that, yet... people still complain because reasons.
02-24-2017 , 04:17 AM
If you really think it's about the buses, consider that if google built a teleportation device the size of a phone booth for their employees and made their commute even more convenient, the protesters would get even madder.
02-24-2017 , 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by iversonian
If you really think it's about the buses, consider that if google built a teleportation device the size of a phone booth for their employees and made their commute even more convenient, the protesters would get even madder.
These Google busses seem very similar to the Microsoft Connector busses. Maybe I'm naive but they seem like a very good thing and are not at all controversial in the Puget Sound area. Seems weird that people would be opposed to these busses.
02-24-2017 , 10:00 AM
Seattle believes that new people can move to Seattle. They even let people who want to live in Seattle work outside of Seattle.
02-24-2017 , 10:35 AM
I'm sorry for reading you guys wrong. I thought you were saying that nothing should be done to prevent Google from interrupting city bus service. That Google shouldn't be "forced" to plan/cooperate/share with the city.

Like the "no parking" sign shouldn't apply to Google because they are a bus and it's a bus stop.
02-24-2017 , 10:46 AM
Nah, I think it's totally reasonable to require Google schedule their buses around the city ones.
02-24-2017 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
I'm sorry for reading you guys wrong. I thought you were saying that nothing should be done to prevent Google from interrupting city bus service. That Google shouldn't be "forced" to plan/cooperate/share with the city.

Like the "no parking" sign shouldn't apply to Google because they are a bus and it's a bus stop.
I think maybe pvn is saying this, and I definitely disagree with that argument. I think people don't realize how intricately planned transit is in major cities, and it was pretty dumb and arrogant of Google et al to just plant an entirely new bus network on top of existing structures without reaching out to the city first.
02-24-2017 , 06:52 PM
I'm pretty sure they had already taken steps to adjust to the city schedule before this latest news.
05-31-2018 , 07:48 PM
WE'RE BACK BABY

06-01-2018 , 08:23 AM
hahaha the scooters

a friend of mine in nashville who drives for uber occasionally signed up to collect Bird scooters and charge them, which apparently can be pretty lucrative. Yesterday he sent me a screenshot:

06-01-2018 , 08:24 AM
At least nobody in nashville is pooping on them


yet
06-01-2018 , 11:47 AM
lol is that police impound?
06-01-2018 , 11:57 AM
06-01-2018 , 11:58 AM
then you got brilliant angleshooters like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_pl...ature=youtu.be
06-01-2018 , 01:56 PM
Cliffs? What are Bird scooters and how can people afford to throw them in the street like that? I get what they're protesting in SF, but what's the deal with the scooters and what's happening in that video?
06-01-2018 , 03:14 PM
It's like carsharing, but for things that aren't cars. The scooters are battery powered (Uber has battery-powered bikes that are similar), and you use a smartphone app to unlock them and use them for a small fee. When you get to your destination you just leave them on the street, which has been a bit of a nuisance in some cities. I haven't tried them but they're everywhere around SF right now. You can see a map here: https://anyscoot.com/
06-01-2018 , 03:22 PM
In Nashville people have been leaving them on my condo building's mulch area. Not a nuisance, and its nice to see people out and enjoying themselves and not having to use a car. The city needs to get its head out of its ass.
06-01-2018 , 03:57 PM
I enjoyed this scootsplainer quite a bit.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...tation/561440/

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Should the scooter company Bird be valued at $1 billion, as Bloomberg News reports? Money is a social construct.

Because you wrote this article, do you agree with every boneheaded comment or policy preference expressed in the future by a scooter CEO? Yes.
06-01-2018 , 04:28 PM
Thanks goofy and lycosid for the scooter 'splanation. Neat idea, imo.
06-01-2018 , 06:12 PM
Kinda having a hard time seeing the long term profitability in renting something that costs $125 to own.
06-02-2018 , 05:05 PM
You pay for the convenience of picking it up and dropping it off whereever you like.
06-02-2018 , 10:05 PM
You pick it up wherever the last guy felt like leaving it.
06-02-2018 , 10:36 PM
The downside of that:


      
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