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Georgia's 6th - Ossof v. Handel. Georgia's 6th - Ossof v. Handel.

06-21-2017 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
That's true but I don't even see Democrats running on federal anti-discrimination laws for LGBTQ people. I would love to see that though. The idea is to press the status quo. That gives people something to get fired up and vote about.
People didn't get fired up to stop trump from destroying the environment and rolling back legal protections for basically all americans, why would they get fired up for anti-discrimination laws?
06-21-2017 , 07:28 PM
Well the idea is, they're more likely to get fired up for anti-discrimination laws that aren't already on the books. "Defend the status quo" is a hard sell right now and there are some good reasons for that.
06-21-2017 , 07:44 PM


http://thehill.com/homenews/house/33...lan-no-leaders
06-21-2017 , 07:44 PM
I like people telling Fly to stop using the word racist and he'll start winning elections.
06-21-2017 , 07:59 PM
The far left Washington Post reporting in the headline that the Senate bill provides bigger subsidies and lower taxes. Sounds great, I'm sure there are no problems.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...876_story.html
06-21-2017 , 08:53 PM
Whoops, obv meant to post in the Obamacare thread.
06-21-2017 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Whoops, obv meant to post in the Obamacare thread.
Do. Not. Worry.

They're all interchangeable. Trumpcare, Trumpbudget, Trumpfrastructure, Trumpweapons, TrumpNATO, doesn't matter. Same **** every time.

The only variables are the amounts. How much Trump gets, how much Republicans get (Not you, lurker. You need to make 250k or more to qualify.), how much credit can be stripped from Obama, how much the American people lose (THIS is you, lurker. Congrats.), and how much the country suffers. The rest is cookie cutter.
06-21-2017 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by becky88
there is that word again. RACIST. try losing that word and winning elections. until libs figure out that the old white folks like to sleep and dont want to be disturbed this nonsense will keep going on. you keep using that word and you rile the old chaps up and they turnout en masse.you have to remember old white folks vote a lot more than young folks of all races. this gives them much clout in elections. so please stop using that word and enciting them or its 8 years of republican folly for all of us.
or maybe you and the rest of your racist old friends could go **** yourselves, and old men get the **** slapped out of them by somebody who is younger and more physically fit when they start on that nonsense. just a thought.

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06-22-2017 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem
How much did ossoffs age hurt him
Probably not as much as looking like Pajama Boy. A retired Atlanta Falcon probably gets more votes in Cobb by default, sadly.

My favorite Ossoff commercial was the one they ran on the flagship R&B radio station, which was essentially "I know Hank Johnson! I know John Lewis!". It reminded me of the movie scene where Eddie Murphy runs for congress and goes around town with a megaphone, changing his voice in the different neighborhoods.
06-22-2017 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Minirra
Lots of hand-wringing about this race. It's an R+8 district in Georgia that Price just finished winning by a landslide a matter of months ago. It's going to be a red district in 2018 and probably a long while after that. Two different candidates with the same funding could have just as easily produced another R blowout.

It's not a bellwether for anything, and it wouldn't have been had Ossoff won either. 2018 elections are a ways away and it's going to be all Dems can do between now and then to find somebody with some effective message, that can win battleground states. Still hearing talk of taking back Congress and maybe picking up Senate seats riding some anti-Trump wave. That's looking pretty optimistic right now,

I might have thought more of this had Handel been a strong incumbent, but she's neither. Without looking I'd guess she got a lot of help in the primaries.
Hey guys nothing to worry about, it's not like Democrats actually need to like, win any red districts or anything, just keep doing the same stuff, keep running these cardboard cutout candidates. Everything is fine.
06-22-2017 , 11:16 AM
archie parnell would have won that race in Georgia

contrast



with



That the Democrats do much much much better when they're not even trying is, um, telling.
06-22-2017 , 11:19 AM
i mean that was a cool ad while also literally being 100% devoid of any policy whatsoever
06-22-2017 , 11:20 AM
I live in East cobb and ended up just skipping voting.

I think Handel is a fat right wing nutter, and not very bright.

I felt like Ossoff was phony and a dweeb.
06-22-2017 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mutigers
i mean that was a cool ad while also literally being 100% devoid of any policy whatsoever
Which is a marked improvement to Ossof's atrocious ad 100% devoid of any policy whatsoever.

AND OSSOF HAD TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!!!!
06-22-2017 , 11:25 AM
06-22-2017 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Which is a marked improvement to Ossof's atrocious ad 100% devoid of any policy whatsoever.

AND OSSOF HAD TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!!!!
agreed
06-22-2017 , 11:29 AM
my man Tucker Carlson knows what's up

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Democrats still have literally no idea why they keep losing elections,” Carlson said on his Tuesday night show. “If they did, they would have run a real candidate with a real job who understands the constituents he is attempting to represent

Instead, Democrats put up a 30-year-old semi-employed documentary filmmaker who can’t even vote for himself because he doesn’t live in the district.

He’s got a ton of trendy, rich-people positions on just about every topic. The abortion people love him. He is gravely concerned about climate and childhood obesity and the availability of organic kale. He thinks illegal aliens are noble. He went to the London School of Economics. He’s super fit and way smarter than you are.


https://www.vox.com/2017/6/21/158455...-ossoff-defeat
06-22-2017 , 11:34 AM
planned parenthood spent 750k on ossof lol
06-22-2017 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Paul Ryan is going to get primaried.
yes, and Ryan will win the primary and general

though I wish he'd lose the primary

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Originally Posted by mutigers
planned parenthood spent 750k on ossof lol
I'd say "lol abortionists," but abortion is no laughing matter.
06-22-2017 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Absolutely we should be talking about automation and what we should do about it. But that requires two things that most Democratic candidates don't currently have:

Imagination
Willingness to take risks
I feel like the whole coal miners losing their jobs thing (obviously doesn't have anything to do with the GA 6th) is such a great opportunity for a collaboration between the government and private industry. Maybe something like energy companies (be they coal, solar, whatever) hire coal workers who are losing their jobs (or other people who are losing their jobs from other shrinking industries) and local/state/federal governments subsidize the costs of training or pay the companies for their first year's salary or some **** like that.

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At some point guys if you keep thinking "these candidates suck" you have to start asking yourself...maybe you should run for office. I'm serious. Everything is at stake here.
There have been moments where I've thought about it, but then I remembered how much I would hate campaigning and how much I would hate being an elected official if I won.
06-22-2017 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
I feel like the whole coal miners losing their jobs thing (obviously doesn't have anything to do with the GA 6th) is such a great opportunity for a collaboration between the government and private industry. Maybe something like energy companies (be they coal, solar, whatever) hire coal workers who are losing their jobs (or other people who are losing their jobs from other shrinking industries) and local/state/federal governments subsidize the costs of training or pay the companies for their first year's salary or some **** like that.



There have been moments where I've thought about it, but then I remembered how much I would hate campaigning and how much I would hate being an elected official if I won.
They already have programs that do that, though they are pretty small scale. Trump's budget guts those programs
06-22-2017 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
http://fusion.kinja.com/bipartisansh...ics-1796268741

Ossoff should've said Handel was going to vote for Trumpcare and was Trump's best friend and FORCED her to either alienate her base by walking that back or embrace. Instead he ran ads about reducing government waste.
THIS
06-22-2017 , 02:17 PM
"Cutting government waste" is one of the best coded phrases ever because to Democrats it means helping the government run efficiently by reading Drucker and applying business school management techniques to work flows to reduce turn around time blah blah blah etc and to Republicans to means cutting taxes and making the the poor, sick, and minorites starve, die, or lead miserable lives while giving tanks to police to quell the ensuing anger.

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 06-22-2017 at 02:22 PM.
06-22-2017 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
I feel like the whole coal miners losing their jobs thing (obviously doesn't have anything to do with the GA 6th) is such a great opportunity for a collaboration between the government and private industry. Maybe something like energy companies (be they coal, solar, whatever) hire coal workers who are losing their jobs (or other people who are losing their jobs from other shrinking industries) and local/state/federal governments subsidize the costs of training or pay the companies for their first year's salary or some **** like that.



There have been moments where I've thought about it, but then I remembered how much I would hate campaigning and how much I would hate being an elected official if I won.
I'm in a similar boat. I've considered running but my concern is less hating the job and more "I do not have the fundraising chops to be able to have enough money to compete in the slightest."
06-22-2017 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.
THIS
Wrong. Trump is popular among those who voted for Handel. Embracing Trump would have only increased her margin of victory.

      
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