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04-30-2015 , 06:00 AM
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/ukip-...-dad-immigrant

My Immigrant Dad Is Voting UKIP
04-30-2015 , 06:25 AM
That's not surprising given the I stands for ignorance. He has no good reason to vote ukip but they win by default. Its not surprising the "I'm alright jack" attitude extends to some minorities too.
04-30-2015 , 08:08 AM
lol Rasta slowly transitioning from the "I don't like UKIP, but they have some cool ideas" to "Hey, look at this immigrant who likes UKIP!"

Can we just skip ahead to the part where you start posting links to straight-up hate speech?
04-30-2015 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
lol Rasta slowly transitioning from the "I don't like UKIP, but they have some cool ideas" to "Hey, look at this immigrant who likes UKIP!"

Can we just skip ahead to the part where you start posting links to straight-up hate speech?


"haaaaate speech!"

"waaaaaaaaycist!"
04-30-2015 , 12:17 PM
Just to comment on the Rotherham thing, obviously the racist part is the willingness to treat paedophilia as some endemic problem in Asian immigrants based on one (or possibly a few) criminal gang(s), but not to treat Operation Yewtree, the Catholic Church, and the ever bubbling investigation into sexual abuse in Parliament as representative of anyone.

And also then to buy the police excuse of "we were afraid of being labelled racist" as if ignoring the problems of children from deprived backgrounds (many of them having been in care) hasn't been the status quo in the past.
04-30-2015 , 04:05 PM
Faculty and students invited to a lively debate expressing a single viewpoint. http://www.theonion.com/articles/col...of-idea,38496/
05-01-2015 , 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
Just to comment on the Rotherham thing, obviously the racist part is the willingness to treat paedophilia as some endemic problem in Asian immigrants based on one (or possibly a few) criminal gang(s), but not to treat Operation Yewtree, the Catholic Church, and the ever bubbling investigation into sexual abuse in Parliament as representative of anyone.

And also then to buy the police excuse of "we were afraid of being labelled racist" as if ignoring the problems of children from deprived backgrounds (many of them having been in care) hasn't been the status quo in the past.
This. Why is it a "muslim rape gang" instead of a "rape gang".

For those not from the UK. This is a common racist talking point and a major red flag.
05-01-2015 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
Just to comment on the Rotherham thing, obviously the racist part is the willingness to treat paedophilia as some endemic problem in Asian immigrants based on one (or possibly a few) criminal gang(s), but not to treat Operation Yewtree, the Catholic Church, and the ever bubbling investigation into sexual abuse in Parliament as representative of anyone.

And also then to buy the police excuse of "we were afraid of being labelled racist" as if ignoring the problems of children from deprived backgrounds (many of them having been in care) hasn't been the status quo in the past.
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Originally Posted by rugby
This. Why is it a "muslim rape gang" instead of a "rape gang".

For those not from the UK. This is a common racist talking point and a major red flag.
It was a Muslim rape gang because it involved exclusively Muslim men who targeted white girls and police who covered it up for fear of being labelled racist.

Their religion was a salient point.

What's racist is you guys using 'Muslim' and 'Asian' interchangeably.

Sikhs and Hindus were completely uninvolved thank you very much and you shouldn't besmirch their name by failing to exclude them from your description. Like I say, you're the racists here. Not me.
05-01-2015 , 12:54 PM
I really never got why they called them Asians either when it was almost exclusively Pakistanis.
05-01-2015 , 02:19 PM
Because everyone but you knows Pakistan is in south Asia.
05-01-2015 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RowCoach
I really never got why they called them Asians either when it was almost exclusively Pakistanis.
It would be racist to be factual when it comes to sensitive minorities
05-01-2015 , 03:10 PM
pretty sure one of the problems in the Rotherdam case that there were too many people like Phill and rugby that let political correctness cloud their vision. this resulted in tragedy.

you can see again in the Rochdale child trafficking case that all of the perpetrators were British Pakistani

FYI bladesman, both Sikh and Hindu groups strongly objected to identifying the perpetrators as "Asian": http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-18092605
05-01-2015 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Because everyone but you knows Pakistan is in south Asia.
lol
05-01-2015 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rastamouse
It was a Muslim rape gang because it involved exclusively Muslim men who targeted white girls and police who covered it up for fear of being labelled racist.

Their religion was a salient point.

What's racist is you guys using 'Muslim' and 'Asian' interchangeably.

Sikhs and Hindus were completely uninvolved thank you very much and you shouldn't besmirch their name by failing to exclude them from your description. Like I say, you're the racists here. Not me.
I'm racist because I don't buy a bull**** excuse like that from the police? Or racist because I don't think paedophilia is a problem brought to us by immigrants?

What the hell are you talking about?
05-01-2015 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by domer2
pretty sure one of the problems in the Rotherdam case that there were too many people like Phill and rugby that let political correctness cloud their vision. this resulted in tragedy.
The 'not believing the victims' problem is not one that goes with being PC. Seems more like the rerverse is true.

We are also far less likely to be impressed with celebs, MPs, the Church etc as we tend to be suspicious of those who use their position to avoid scrutiny.
05-01-2015 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rastamouse
It was a Muslim rape gang because it involved exclusively Muslim men who targeted white girls and police who covered it up for fear of being labelled racist.

Their religion was a salient point.

What's racist is you guys using 'Muslim' and 'Asian' interchangeably.

Sikhs and Hindus were completely uninvolved thank you very much and you shouldn't besmirch their name by failing to exclude them from your description. Like I say, you're the racists here. Not me.
Lol.

You: "muslims aren't persecuted! Look at all the raping they get away with!"

Me: "um, dude?"

You: "you're the real racist!"
05-01-2015 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by domer2
pretty sure one of the problems in the Rotherdam case that there were too many people like Phill and rugby that let political correctness cloud their vision. this resulted in tragedy.

you can see again in the Rochdale child trafficking case that all of the perpetrators were British Pakistani

FYI bladesman, both Sikh and Hindu groups strongly objected to identifying the perpetrators as "Asian": http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-18092605
You don't know what political correctness is if you think it's what causes cops to ignore child abuse cases involving Asian taxi drivers or white BBC employees or white Catholic priests or white politicians etc.
05-01-2015 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rastamouse
It was a Muslim rape gang because it involved exclusively Muslim men who targeted white girls and police who covered it up for fear of being labelled racist.

Their religion was a salient point.

What's racist is you guys using 'Muslim' and 'Asian' interchangeably.

Sikhs and Hindus were completely uninvolved thank you very much and you shouldn't besmirch their name by failing to exclude them from your description. Like I say, you're the racists here. Not me.
I overlooked the racism in this earlier.

Here rasta says you can't besmirch Sikhs and Hindus in a post where he besmirches Muslims. He is literally being racist against the vast majority of Pakistani Muslims in a thread where earlier he said they didn't face racism for their race and religion.

You are an Islamophobic POS fella.
05-03-2015 , 11:49 AM
That post melted irony.
05-03-2015 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
You are an Islamophobic POS fella.
I'm definitely Islamophobic.

I support equality for women, don't believe in killing apostates and don't believe in killing homosexuals, all of which are called for in the Qu'ran.

That's not to say I'm gratuitously horrible towards Muslims, but I hate the religion and believe it deserves the appropriate mockery and contempt that its starting to get.

One of my best friends is an ex-Muslim who's family ****ing disowned him when he told them he no longer believed in the religion. He's Pakistani and I think you'd do well to have a word with him.
05-03-2015 , 04:22 PM
UK is 76% irreligious, so it wouldn't be surprising if there were a certain baseline of religophobia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_by_country
05-03-2015 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rastamouse
I'm definitely Islamophobic.

I support equality for women, don't believe in killing apostates and don't believe in killing homosexuals, all of which are called for in the Qu'ran.

That's not to say I'm gratuitously horrible towards Muslims, but I hate the religion and believe it deserves the appropriate mockery and contempt that its starting to get.

One of my best friends is an ex-Muslim who's family ****ing disowned him when he told them he no longer believed in the religion. He's Pakistani and I think you'd do well to have a word with him.
I assume you think equally badly of Christians and Jews too. Which is the only way you are not a huge prejudiced pos.
05-03-2015 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
I assume you think equally badly of Christians and Jews too. Which is the only way you are not a huge prejudiced pos.
I think religion is absurd, stupid and nonsensical.

I however, recognise that Islam is the one that is unfortunately, the most powerful today and the biggest threat to the civilised world at the moment. It commands more of my attention than Christianity, which has largely been neutered in Western Europe and of course, Judaism, which is neither prosthelatising nor has a massive worldwide following.

Islam is repugnant though, and has inflicted a great deal of misery on the world and on my (Pakistani) companions. Don't pat them on the head and tell them they deserve no better because they're brown.
05-04-2015 , 08:25 AM
I have known many Muslims. All completely great people.

Also the biggest threat to the civilised world is Christians and not even close. Who knows where we end up if some far right douchebag gets elected in America and there is a full scale proxy war in Iran between Putin and Bush 3.

There isn't a Muslim on the planet who can threaten civilisation like these guys can.
05-04-2015 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
I have known many Muslims. All completely great people.

Also the biggest threat to the civilised world is Christians and not even close. Who knows where we end up if some far right douchebag gets elected in America and there is a full scale proxy war in Iran between Putin and Bush 3.

There isn't a Muslim on the planet who can threaten civilisation like these guys can.
I've known several Muslim guys too. Five of the six in my class at school supported suicide bombing, the destruction of Israel and the attacks on 9/11 as well as the Islamisation of the west. One of them was the son of the (at the time) Muslim council of Britain. Make of that what you will.

Funny thing is, as people they were all quite nice! We played football, video games and cricket like any other normal crew of teenagers.

Would they carry out a suicide bombing? Probably not. Would they defend the west against those that do? Never.

The religion was the problem. Not them. The BELIEF in Islam as the one and only true word of the creator of the universe was the issue. Just as believing the earth was flat wouldn't necessarily mean you were stupid, but the belief itself would be a major handicap on your progression in life. Likewise, belief that the Qu'ran is true, doesn't mean that you're a bad person, but the belief can will and do make you carry out evil acts.

Biggest threat to the civilised world isn't Christians lol, but you have to say that it is because you want to appear as un-racist as possible.

      
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