I have never collected a penny from any of those above . Do i walk on paved roads and have a library card , yes , but outside of those minute things i dont use any form of govt help, even when warranted or qualified .
The whole fraud issue seems to stim from the fact that the government wants to give away "food bucks" that the person can then spend or trade on their own and that's where people circumvent all the intentions.
What happend to the whole "government cheese" concent? In other words why not just ship the people who need food assistance actual food? There are logistical considerations but even if it cost a slight amoutn it would all but eliminate most fraud.
How would it stop fraud? People would just trade their government cheese for whatever.
I have never collected a penny from any of those above . Do i walk on paved roads and have a library card , yes , but outside of those minute things i dont use any form of govt help, even when warranted or qualified .
Thread has all the standard hating on government, poor people, and inefficiencies without any discussion on the fact that banks, JP Morgan particularly, are more than happy to profit off the underfed. It's not that egregious though, someone's gotta make a profit, right, right??
This is the best paper I've read on the current state of Tea Party (which, at this point in time, is basically synonymous with Republican right wing conservatives.)
In case you're lazy and don't want to read it all... allow me to selectively pick a few quotes.
"The affection of grassroots Tea Partiers for major programs
like Social Security is at odds with the policies pushed
by many of the elite national organizations that fund their
protests. For example, FreedomWorks (a major funder of
Tea Party Patriots) was active in President Bush’s campaign
to privatize Social Security, and FreedomWorks
Chairman Dick Armey has referred to Social Security as
“generational theft.”46 At a grassroots level, however, Tea
Partiers judge entitlement programs not in terms of abstract
free-market orthodoxy, but according to the perceived
deservingness of recipients." (emphasis added)
"...many Tea Partiers are deeply concerned that
the country they live in is not the country of their youth—
and that they themselves are no longer represented by the
US government."
But rich people are really really rich! Not sure if you've heard. And having problems with public sector unions and food stamp abuse necessarily means you can't support closing the hedge fund loophole, eliminating the Bush tax cuts, or any other common sense budget measure!
I love how conservative pundits lose their **** over the idea that some lazy bum might be scamming a few hundred bucks on food stamps or whatever, basically small potatoes where the cost of actually trying to prevent low level loser abuse could easily be more expensive or at least prevent a lot of the actual good the program does, not to mention that the loser scamming the food stamps is still spending the money into the economy in a way that probably is more economically stimulating than a lot of government spending... But when it was the buffett rule, or hedge fund loopholes it was all "lulz this will only save us like 30 billion a year, that's not going to even make a difference in the scheme of things!" type jargon. And then the people that listen to those pundits regurgitate the same ****, so you heard it everywhere. Same with during the buffet rule story the pundits tried to frame the issue as "rich people pay a lot of taxes yo, they pay like bajillion times more than the homeless people!!", and those trying to have a honest conversation about it were tilted since the whole point of the damn thing was about the percentage of individual taxes.
Her outlook falls in the 95% majority of those that are on the govt dole. They have no problems gaming the system. Sometimes i wish I wasnt so anti govt as i have refused to take a penny from them even when warranted.
Fail.
Your mentality is just wrong.
When something is broken (like the govt) you are supposed to abuse it as much as humanly possible (and even better, encourage other people to abuse it). Eventually it will get to a point where people realize "holy ****, enough is enough" and the system will be changed. Your long term goal (of reform) will eventually be fulfilled and you will have benefited in the process of accomplishing it.
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