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Old 06-05-2012, 03:28 AM   #1
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Federal law says all delegates are unbound

http://www.examiner.com/article/fede...es-are-unbound


The Ron Paul Revolution is determined to find every federal source that states that all delegates will be unbound. Up to this point, they have managed to find a Republican Party rule that supports free agents, Rule 38. However, that was not enough to satisfy themselves.

In more recent discoveries, they have found that 42 USC § 1971 - Voting Rights supports the claim that voters cannot be forced by anyone to vote for any candidate he or she does not favor.

“No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate." - 42 USC § 1971 - Voting Rights.

The response from the rest of the Republican Party was that this does not account for conventions or nominations. However, this latest finding will trump that claim. 11 CFR 100.2 - Election (2 U.S.C. 431(1)) clearly states that:

“Caucus or Convention. A caucus or convention of a political party is an election if the caucus or convention has the authority to select a nominee for federal office on behalf of that party.” - 11 CFR 100.2 - Election (2 U.S.C. 431(1)).

Federal law has the ability to trump all state laws as well as party rules. The Paul supporters now have two federal sources that support their claim that all delegates at the Republican National Convention are free agents. The challenge to the Paul supporters now is, can they alert all of the “bound” Paul supporting delegates?
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:31 AM   #2
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I really hope there are some ****ing fireworks at that convention imo.
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:49 AM   #3
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Would be nice to see Paulites seriously **** up the Romney machine.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:28 AM   #4
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Even if delegates aren't legally bound there is no way enough will switch to change the outcome.

They could be a huge PITA for the republican party though with a voter intimidation lawsuit.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:42 AM   #5
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This combined with the secret delegates will clinch it for RP.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:05 AM   #6
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I'll bet money that RP doesn't get over 500 delegates.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:29 AM   #7
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I'll bet money that RP doesn't get over 500 delegates.
How much and how do we determine it?
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:42 AM   #8
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Why does Ron Paul hate democracy?
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:59 AM   #9
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The Ron Paul Revolution is determined to find every federal source that states that all delegates will be unbound. Up to this point, they have managed to find a Republican Party rule that supports free agents, Rule 38. However, that was not enough to satisfy themselves.

In more recent discoveries, they have found that 42 USC § 1971 - Voting Rights supports the claim that voters cannot be forced by anyone to vote for any candidate he or she does not favor.

“No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate." - 42 USC § 1971 - Voting Rights.

The response from the rest of the Republican Party was that this does not account for conventions or nominations. However, this latest finding will trump that claim. 11 CFR 100.2 - Election (2 U.S.C. 431(1)) clearly states that:

“Caucus or Convention. A caucus or convention of a political party is an election if the caucus or convention has the authority to select a nominee for federal office on behalf of that party.” - 11 CFR 100.2 - Election (2 U.S.C. 431(1)).

Federal law has the ability to trump all state laws as well as party rules. The Paul supporters now have two federal sources that support their claim that all delegates at the Republican National Convention are free agents. The challenge to the Paul supporters now is, can they alert all of the “bound” Paul supporting delegates?
It's good to see that some RP supporters were able to take some time away from making up bogus tax protester arguments and support the cause by making up bogus election law arguments.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:07 AM   #10
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To heck with the convention, RP is going to try to get this applied to the Electoral College.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:34 AM   #11
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To heck with the convention, RP is going to try to get this applied to the Electoral College.
I'd love to see the electoral college gtfo forever but this won't do it. It'll take a constitutional amendment for that to happen.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:15 PM   #12
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Maybe the flag at the RNC will have gold fringe.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:20 PM   #13
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Im sure the consequences of a small slap on the wrist well after the election has been decided will have a major effect on GOP actions here.

Does the FEC even have a quorum these days?
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:23 PM   #14
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To heck with the convention, RP is going to try to get this applied to the Electoral College.
Electors from the EC routinely will vote for someone else. John Edwards got an electoral vote in 2004 (he also got the VP vote from the same elector). In 2000, a DC Gore voter abstained. In 1976, an elector voted for Reagan instead of Ford.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:56 PM   #15
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lol states rights
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