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02-05-2017 , 03:28 AM
Restaurant review

Niroj in Agoura Hills

I drove across town tonight to go to what they say is the only Kurdish restaurant west of the Mississippi. Some nights (including tonight) they had Kurdish music and dancing in the small restaurant. The dancing included some shills, but mostly patrons all in a circle. The food was really good. The owner comes out and talks to everyone.

We went with a friend of my daughter's and her mom. The dad is in Russia or Germany for business. He's Syrian (not Kurdish) and is a US citizen, but parts of his large family just got to Germany and the UK recently as refugees and some are still in Syria. One interesting thing from the refugee camps in Germany...you can get out and resettled if you get a sponsor and they were among the very few who got sponsored because they are Druze and not Muslim. A Lutheran church sponsored them.
02-05-2017 , 04:40 AM
You don't need a sponsor as there are no "refugee camps". There are some centers where refugees are supposed to stay for around three months before they are resettled to the local communities which typically put them into smaller units of private housing or temporary apartments that are often the size of shipping containers.
In 2015 this wasn't possible due to the number of refugees, so they created "emergency centers" in unused public buildings. My town of 26k people had two of those in schools that were supposed to be torn down with 1.000 people at one point. These days there are a little over 300 refugees mostly living in private housing.
02-05-2017 , 04:58 AM
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The food was really good.
Not a food critic per chance are ya?
02-05-2017 , 05:17 AM
@German,

Could be a "center", but the sponsor thing is pretty clear. I'm not positive though that the camp or center was in Germany, but they were settled in East Germany (now I guess "eastern Germany") for sure. The people I had dinner with spent the xmas break visiting them in Germany and the other relatives in London. I don't remember what city in Germany. They said it was small and quiet and not much to do. And I didn't catch when they got there, but it's long enough that the teenage boy has gotten very absorbed into the soccer team as he's pretty good.

@pe,

I meant the review as more of a cultural experience for a politics review and not the lounge. It is a set menu/prix fixe for the nights with entertainment and I can't really even tell you what I ate by name. It was similar to other ME food.

Last edited by microbet; 02-05-2017 at 05:27 AM.
02-05-2017 , 09:09 AM
02-05-2017 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
Depends who you ask. At the time, it was a syncretic politics drawing aspects from the left and the right. Now it's hard right, unquestionably, whatever some libertarian toting a two-axis graph made in MS Paint wants to tell you.

Considering it purely as a subset of Fascism:



^Always a fun one to bust out when the "Fascism is left-wing don't you know" crowd come rolling around. Poor old Benny was turble confused about Fascism.
Thx
02-05-2017 , 09:57 AM
@microbet:
I'm pretty sure that having a church community offer an apartment to a Syrian family would speed up the process quiet a bit. I just wanted to clarify that most refugees don't live in facilities anymore that you would call camps or centers or whatever.
In some metropolitan areas things might be more difficult, but in smaller, especially non-growing cities housing is not much of a problem.
02-05-2017 , 01:16 PM
Any of you New Yorkers been to the music venue Brooklyn Steel? Trying to pick a city to see a show.
02-05-2017 , 01:21 PM
Yeah it's a pretty clear case of liberal hypocrisy for tenured professors passionate about minimum wage and universal health care to have their six figure salaries paid on the backs of students borrowing money they'll never be able to repay and adjuncts/grad students who get paid nothing.
02-05-2017 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Yeah it's a pretty clear case of liberal hypocrisy for tenured professors passionate about minimum wage and universal health care to have their six figure salaries paid on the backs of students borrowing money they'll never be able to repay and adjuncts/grad students who get paid nothing.
Not sure what the context is for this. Should the tenured professors earn less or should the adjuncts/grads earn more and effective tuition rates be lower, in your opinion?
02-05-2017 , 03:30 PM
Isn't it pretty well accepted that the money sink is the ever-growing college administrations?
02-05-2017 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Not sure what the context is for this. Should the tenured professors earn less or should the adjuncts/grads earn more and effective tuition rates be lower, in your opinion?
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Isn't it pretty well accepted that the money sink is the ever-growing college administrations?
States could go back to properly funding universities again, that would help a lot.
http://www.acenet.edu/the-presidency...he-bottom.aspx
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State appropriations for public higher education have just faced another tough year. And yet, public institutions have faced many such years over the past three decades. Despite steadily growing student demand for higher education since the mid-1970s, state fiscal investment in higher education has been in retreat in the states since about 1980.

In fact, it is headed for zero.

Based on the trends since 1980, average state fiscal support for higher education will reach zero by 2059, although it could happen much sooner in some states and later in others. Public higher education is gradually being privatized.

In this analysis, state fiscal investment in higher education is measured in two ways: first, as a share of all higher education expenditures as counted in the National Income and Product Accounts (NIPA) of the U.S., and second, as the share of state personal income provided by annual state appropriations for the operations of higher education by Grapevine, an annual compilation of data on state fiscal support for higher education.
02-05-2017 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Isn't it pretty well accepted that the money sink is the ever-growing college administrations?
Yes, although I'm not an expert on it and undoubtedly biased by personal disillusionment from going through the system. Public higher education seems to be a pretty intractable cluster **** to me, especially at the graduate/postdoc level.
02-05-2017 , 03:51 PM
Noted trump propaganda financier and oculus big wig palmer luckey fined $50 million for breaking NDA with previous company, oculus out a half billion


http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/1/1447...awsuit-verdict
02-05-2017 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
States could go back to properly funding universities again, that would help a lot.
http://www.acenet.edu/the-presidency...he-bottom.aspx
When the article extrapolates every downward trend literally to zero and feels the need to repeat that like 37 times in the article, that's a sign that you might not be citing the best source.
02-05-2017 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by thenewsavman
When the article extrapolates every downward trend literally to zero and feels the need to repeat that like 37 times in the article, that's a sign that you might not be citing the best source.
It's all true. If you're going to attack their methodology you're going to have to do better than that.

http://www.acenet.edu/the-presidency...he-bottom.aspx
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So What Happens?

Declining state support for higher education leads directly to increased tuition charges to students.

Inflation-adjusted tuition charges that were declining in the 1970s have surged since 1980. Inflation-adjusted tuition and fee charges have increased by 247 percent at state flagship universities, by 230 percent at state universities and colleges, and by 164 percent at community colleges since 1980.
Many public universities are enrolling a shrinking share of students from lower-income families and competing most aggressively for the students that can afford to pay higher tuitions with institutional discounts.
Public institutions that can do so are aggressively recruiting non-resident students, for whom tuition charges are typically three times what state residents pay.
02-05-2017 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Yeah it's a pretty clear case of liberal hypocrisy for tenured professors passionate about minimum wage and universal health care to have their six figure salaries paid on the backs of students borrowing money they'll never be able to repay and adjuncts/grad students who get paid nothing.
Lol....I get so sick of all those professors driving around in their fancy Hondas!
02-05-2017 , 04:09 PM
Yeah professors aren't the ones who set those policies. Most of it has to do with states dumping their support for public universities, and then the schools have to figure out how to make up the extra costs.
02-05-2017 , 04:17 PM
Yeah, and furthermore I don't think a person at the height of their field making 120k is somehow a hypocrite for wanting a minimum wage and better social safety nets.
02-05-2017 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Yeah, and furthermore I don't think a person at the height of their field making 120k is somehow a hypocrite for wanting a minimum wage and better social safety nets.
Of course that is not hypocritical, but conservative types literally have no idea how empathy for other people works, as we have seen time and time again. They are suspicious of anyone who isn't completely selfish because they can't imagine caring for others.
02-05-2017 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Isn't it pretty well accepted that the money sink is the ever-growing college administrations?
This, along with the infrastructure they administer. The fancy new buildings seem to be going up continously. I don't begrudge professors their salaries. Many I know are workaholics.
02-05-2017 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Adjuncts are even cheaper in some cases. At the university where I'm currently employed, they pay adjuncts something obscenely low like $1700 per full-semester course. To give that number some context, one course is about 10 hours per week of work, if you've taught it before. Much more if you haven't. And all of this work is given on a semester by semester basis. So you have people with master's degrees vying like hell for this work to make a little more than 20k a year.


I enjoyed the adjunct professors far more than the regular professors. They generally had more recent experience in the working world with what they were teaching and hadn't been in academia for however long. They were also far less dry.
02-05-2017 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by StevenPoke
I enjoyed the adjunct professors far more than the regular professors. They generally had more recent experience in the working world with what they were teaching and hadn't been in academia for however long. They were also far less dry.
I actually second this, probably twice as likely to hold a good / enjoyable / worthwhile class.
02-05-2017 , 09:53 PM
In SMPu news here are the requirements for Lord's safe space:

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Originally Posted by LordJvK
These people are literally not worth my time.

You do not get "speak to Lord" privileges.

I require these things for people to talk to me.

Age: at least 24
Qualifications: At least BA level
Virginity: Must have lost it

Anyone not meeting these criteria will be summarily ignored by me from now on.
02-05-2017 , 09:58 PM
sportsball spoiler

Spoiler:
white nationalists and deplorables around the country being dealt a severe blow at the super bowl so far

      
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