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Explosion at the Boston Marathon (NSFW Graphic Images): Waltham Murders Tied, 3rd Supect Dead Explosion at the Boston Marathon (NSFW Graphic Images): Waltham Murders Tied, 3rd Supect Dead

04-18-2013 , 08:54 PM
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@fivethirtyeight
Becoming hard to tell difference between credible news organizations like 4chan and troll sites like New York Post.
04-18-2013 , 08:55 PM
LOL
04-18-2013 , 09:04 PM
The Post is, and always has been, a joke. 4chan has somehow been wrong more than the Post. Lol Nate.
04-18-2013 , 09:41 PM
I think what I really need at this point is for just ONE MORE person to poast the pix of the suspects on Facebook. Cuz seeing them only 257 times just isn't enough to reach fat dumb Americans.
04-18-2013 , 09:46 PM
Story about the kid slandered by NY Post:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...mbing-suspect/

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He was so fearful on Thursday that he ran back to the high school after a track meet when he saw a man in a car staring at him, talking into a phone, he said.

Barhoum added he received more than 200 messages online Wednesday, with one commenter from Oregon asking: "How could you do that? Did you even think about the consequences?"

Barhoum said he won't feel safe until the actual bombers are caught.

"I'm going to be scared going to school," Barhoum said. "Workwise, my family, everything is going to be scary."
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"Right now, we are not secure," he said. "So, the news (media), when they put something, they should be sure about the information."

In a statement, New York Post editor Col Allan said, "We stand by our story. The image was emailed to law enforcement agencies yesterday afternoon seeking information about these men, as our story reported. We did not identify them as suspects."
04-18-2013 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pvn
Cliffnotes: bombs bombs bombs BOMBS gotta DO SOMETHING dontchaknow gummie yer papers
IDs are being checked to get into the crime scene area. They appear to be allowing people that live/work in some of the places inside.
04-18-2013 , 09:50 PM
I think the missing Brown student is interesting. Especially considering the lengths at which the FBI were taking to find him (20 state manhunt the last month for a missing college aged kid?).
04-18-2013 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut
I find this sort of ridicule-every-uncommon-ish-opinion stance that seems to be in order over here somewhat dangerous. Not everybody who suspects the mainstream media to have an agenda is a conspiracy nut who believes Obama is a blood-sucking humanoid reptile who is out to enslave this planet.

I'm here in "Politics" for two days and I can only imagine you have to deal with serious nutjobs on a regular basis, but there are varying degrees, you know, and being skeptical is a good thing. Do you have to be always right when you question something? No, and if you aren't that doesn't mean you believe in aliens.

In my opinion, if you believe the mainstream media has no agenda, it's you who needs his head examined.
I was going to go through each part individually, but I'll over the whole thing as a whole. First, I don't trust the MSM holistically, nor do I trust the FBI holistically either, but what alternatives to this are there? Reddit and 4Chan have put the most manpower into this and they came up with, " This guy looks scary" and the guy that "looked scary" WENT TO THE POLICE STATION TO CLEAR HIS NAME. The fact he responded on Facebook means he's streets head of even the average American in terms of accountability. But even Reddit put more effort into it than the Infowars types who say some scary guys that looked vaguely militaristic and concluded it's all a false flag operation, or maybe a cover up by the government and Saudi Arabia or whatever makes white middle class gun nuts feel safe at night.

I don't trust the FBI completely but this chronic cynicalism that manifests itself as permanent skepticism boarding on conspiratardism is just as debilitating as complete belief in the USA.
04-18-2013 , 10:02 PM
Wouldn't the FBI have made that connection and not had to ask the public for names?
04-18-2013 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
IDs are being checked to get into the crime scene area. They appear to be allowing people that live/work in some of the places inside.
Yes, we were discussing the more broad case where CC condones papers please checkpoints in the general sense.
04-18-2013 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KennyJPowers
You mean middle eastern right?
Persians aren't Middle Eastern.
04-18-2013 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe
White Hat after the explosion.

It's interesting how little a still can convey because I would guess that the bald guy next to him is the bomber because he's wanting to see the explosion.
04-18-2013 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Iran isn't in the Middle East.
It is to me IDK what you class as the middle east where your from
04-18-2013 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KennyJPowers
It is to me IDK what you class as the middle east where your from
You're kinda saying all middle easterners look the same, but there are pretty distinct physical differences between, say, an Arab and a Persian.
04-18-2013 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
You're kinda saying all middle easterners look the same, but there are pretty distinct physical differences between, say, an Arab and a Persian.
No I'm kinda saying that Iran is in the Middle East if you read what you quoted me on
04-18-2013 , 10:17 PM
I was referencing the earlier post as well.
04-18-2013 , 10:19 PM
While a categorization of a "Persian" ethnic group persists in the West, Persians have generally been a pan-national group often comprising regional people who often refer to themselves as 'Persians' and have also often used the term "Iranian" (in the ethnic-cultural sense). As a pan-national group, defining Persians as an ethnic group, at least in terms used in the West, is not inclusive since the ethnonym "Persian" includes several Iranian people including the speakers of Modern Persian. Some scholars, classify the speakers of Persian language as a single ethnic unit (the ‘Persians’) and exclude those Iranians who speak dialects of Persian, or other Iranian dialects closely related to Persian;[36] however this approach to ethnicity in Iran is erroneous, since the designation Iranian (Irani) as an ethnic term has been used by all these ethnic group in Iran, including the "Persians" irrespective of their origin, language and religion.[36] -- Wiki...

I knew an Arab from Iran before.
04-18-2013 , 10:23 PM
we are talking about sematics here, the guy at the back could be israeli or Ejyptian or from anywhere around that area
04-18-2013 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pvn
Yes, we were discussing the more broad case where CC condones papers please checkpoints in the general sense.
Fair enough, it's just not happening in Boston right now from what I can tell walking around the area. They might be checking going into some hotels and buildings too.
04-18-2013 , 10:28 PM
One story on Bloomberg says that guy in the graphic wheelchair photo helped ID white hat guy.

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/201...attackers.html

EDIT: not sure which guy now

Last edited by LetsGambool; 04-18-2013 at 10:34 PM.
04-18-2013 , 10:29 PM
Iran is in the Middle East (IMO), but Persians aren't originally Middle Eastern (they're from Central Asia).

Kinda semantic. How are people defining the Middle East? I understand it as basically everything from Egypt, the Levant, Syria, and Anatolia in the West, plus the Arabian peninsula, Mesopotamia, and the Iranian plateau. Differing views?
04-18-2013 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KennyJPowers
we are talking about sematics here, the guy at the back could be israeli or Ejyptian or from anywhere around that area
I'm not sure it's semantics nittery. You're tossing around 'that area' in ways that makes me raise an eyebrow a bit. There are some very important religious, cultural and political differences between Iran and the rest of the countries typically said to be in the middle east.
04-18-2013 , 10:41 PM
This nittery is AIDS I say


We're all humans. **** nationalism, religion, race, ethnicity, **** it all.
04-18-2013 , 10:43 PM
I'm so glad that guy in the wheel chair lived. I ****ing guarantee you that he will run another marathon. So awesome he witnessed one of the guys.
04-18-2013 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe
White Hat after the explosion.

Intrestingly, this photo was found by a Reddit user, not released by the FBI AFAIK

      
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