I think ANY country a part of the EU and using the Euro would have been better off without them. Even Germany. Switzerland is doing fine outside the EU and the Pound Sterling has been rising in value while the Euro has fallen.

The EU had added an unnecessary level of bureaucracy, regulation, and taxation upon Europe. Death to the EU, I say!

oh, i should go join those technocrats is what u suggesting ?
if course it would at least long term, thats actually what a legit technocrat would explain you.

i dont "know everything better" but me and many people can tell difference between democratic union and disguised communism. besides i dont need to offend anybody that disagrees with my reasoning neither to express my opinions.

dont call it conspiracy, call it corruption.

And yet still, there are political forces - inside Switzerland - that still want us to join the EU no matter what. The truth of the matter is, that a majority of our politicians would join the EU instantly and the sole reason why we are not part of the EU yet is that the people block the constitutional change by referendum.
Maintening status quo - sometimes - is more work than it might seem.

I know, Eurocrats scare me. They will do anything, lie, cheat, and steal to get what they want. Much like the communists of old, they claim to be Pro-Europe. They support the "community method." What the hell does that even mean? More
bureaucracy, more regulation, more integration of banking and financial responsibilities all created to give more power to themselves, slowly but surely. It is the complete opposite of military blitzkrieg. It is a slow political siege on the countries of Europe.

The EU regularly goes against referendums letting the people decide their fate with regards to the EU. If their is a referendum result they don't like, they ignore it and chastise the people for being selfish. Many EU MEP's are socialists. Manuel Barroso, used to be a Communist. He has never been an elected representative. Only a bureaucrat. This is the typical EU leader.

I don't get it why people have so much against comunism and socialism. I have yet to meet a person who said that it's much better now when we live in democracy and in EU then it was when we lived in Yugoslavia which was a comunist/socialist country.
This is how comunism looked here:
- multi etnic society
- virtualy no crime
- anual GDP 6.1% till 1980
- One month free vacation with pay
- decent standart of living
- free health care
- free education
- garunteed right to a job
- literacy rate : 91%
- life expectancy :72 years
- most of the economy was in the public sector and not for profit sector

But then capitalism and nationalism entered and we know how it ended

Seriously?

SOS really, typical Europe. America is better, we damn well wish you guys had the stones to provide for your own defense. But then again Europe has had peace for a long time now due to having minimal DODs.

Doesn't get any deeper than that in US.

Yeah seriously.

Interesting. The people here that fled communist countries talk about how terrible communism was. But I guess that's not an unbiased source.

Ok I found a poll that was made by some tv station here. 83% of people said that it was better to live in Yugoslavia then it is to live now.

Well it probably depends from which country those people are. I can imagine that somebody who lived in Soviet Union has those feelings about comunism.

Also this. We as a country with 2 million people are 8x more in debt now than the whole Yugoslavia was

id say we forget about the "isms" and think about human rights, earth resources, distribution of wealth, among other problems.

who cares whats the color of the shirt of the guy thats stealing you, your family, your sons and the future of your grandchildren or what "ism" he is screaming for ?

It does not work, that is why. And no because it did work for several years does not mean, that it would had worked for all eternity.

Personally I do believe that both comunism and socialism are very romantic ideals that would be worth achieving. Buth who is gonna upheld what those ideals are standing for?

Where there are people, there is greed. Where there is greed there is money. Where there is money, there is power. Where there is power there are those that are on top and those that are on foot of the foodchain.

I agree with you. But isn't this true for every regime and not just comunism and socialism.