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Old 06-26-2012, 01:14 PM   #16
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My understanding is the people in the vacation countries like to be lazy and hang out on the beach and take siestas or whatever with full retirement at like age 42, while the cold as balls countries like to work their asses off and not spend money like drunken sailors. This of course leads to the vacation countries being broke and the hardworking countries having some money. The vacation countries think they should be bailed out because, well, I don't think they've really articulated a reason why they deserve a bailout. While the hardworking countries are balking at the idea of working hard so the lazies can lazy.
im sorry but ur understanding is totally wrong. the uero currency and its rules plus EU rules are the ones responsible for this monetary collapse.

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Old 06-26-2012, 01:20 PM   #17
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Unlikely, Hitler was defeated by his enemies. If you want to be on the currency you have to go out on top, ala Genghis Khan, Bismark, Abraham Lincoln, or Peter the Great.

edit: to be fair, only Genghis Khan is really comparable
yes i can go steal some banks, kill some people for money, take others poeple land, use them for slavery, and making a big fortune out of it, then the cops will come and defeat me, making my family pay 10% of those total earnings. how does that sound ?
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:52 PM   #18
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im sorry but ur understanding is totally wrong. the uero currency and its rules plus EU rules are the ones responsible for this monetary collapse.
This is like a football player picking up the ball, running into goal, and blaming the rules for why they didn't win.
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:04 PM   #19
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I assume you are greek/Italian/or spanish?

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**** OFF YOUR government screwed up, YOUR people did commit taxfraud and YOU want OUR money. So *** and blame your own country and not ours because we are not throwing around money like your government.
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. how does that sound ?
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:23 PM   #21
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I think Greece should provide collateral for their loans. Germany should be allowed to develop those Greek Islands. A 99-year lease.
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:29 PM   #22
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This is like a football player picking up the ball, running into goal, and blaming the rules for why they didn't win.
ur comparison is ridiculous, it was in some way obvious that Euro wouldn't last long on based on the currency rules and EU rules, why do u think British didn't follow then ?
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:43 PM   #23
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I assume you are greek/Italian/or spanish?

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**** OFF YOUR government screwed up, YOUR people did commit taxfraud and YOU want OUR money. So *** and blame your own country and not ours because we are not throwing around money like your government.
im not blaming countries, im blaming corrupted politicians and governments along with big corporates and banks, or do u think those millions loans for bail-outs aren't beneficing anybody ?

oh i forgot, ur country doesn't need a bail-out, so i guess that makes them the good people and we the bad ones. wake up dude, EU reforms and rules were "rigged" from the start, as i would also agree that my country government and spending went wrong, but what makes u think ur didnt ? because u have no debt and no corruption ? give me a break.

im i and common citizens the one to blame and pay for the mistakes of this people ?
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:44 PM   #24
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I think Greece should provide collateral for their loans. Germany should be allowed to develop those Greek Islands. A 99-year lease.
yeah awesome idea!

how great would that be? owning land without using guns.
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:52 PM   #25
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ur comparison is ridiculous, it was in some way obvious that Euro wouldn't last long on based on the currency rules and EU rules, why do u think British didn't follow then ?
The hindsight/confirmation bias people display when it's about economic developments is just incredible. Everything is totally "obvious" to everyone who doesn't have the slightest clue..ex post.
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im i and common citizens the one to blame and pay for the mistakes of this people ?
The answer to this is unquestionably going to be yes, one way or another.
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:53 PM   #27
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**** yeah im angry, and u should be too, ur country is prob next, or are u also beneficing from the "ponzy scheme" ?
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:55 PM   #28
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im i and common citizens the one to blame and pay for the mistakes of this people ?
In a sense, no, because your causal contribution is negligible. People like to personalize these things though. It's unfair but that's how we roll!
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:56 PM   #29
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The answer to this is unquestionably going to be yes, one way or another.
gotta agree, still that doesn't make it right, does it ?
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:05 PM   #30
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The hindsight/confirmation bias people display when it's about economic developments is just incredible. Everything is totally "obvious" to everyone who doesn't have the slightest clue..ex post.
while i've to admit to be a noob in some economic and political matters, i've the right to express my opinion, im in fact in politics forum i guess im ok to express my views. im also ok with the flaming, why would words bother me at this point?

but it doesn't take a genius to look back on history and recognize this is all the same ****, just the "terms" change, or what they are doing to the people much different from a dictatorship?
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