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Old 06-12-2012, 06:45 PM   #76
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Re: Eric Holder: Worst AG Ever?

And remember that the deaths due to Fast and Furious weren't only forseeable, they were intended. The entire goal of the operation was for Mexican drug lords to get a bunch of guns and start killing people, then blame the whole mess on US gun dealers so he could get stiffer gun laws passed. Having people die was the goal of the operation.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:50 PM   #77
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And remember that the deaths due to Fast and Furious weren't only forseeable, they were intended. The entire goal of the operation was for Mexican drug lords to get a bunch of guns and start killing people, then blame the whole mess on US gun dealers so he could get stiffer gun laws passed. Having people die was the goal of the operation.

Wow, I missed that. Link?
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:56 PM   #78
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Wow, I missed that. Link?
LOL.

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Old 06-12-2012, 07:20 PM   #79
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Remember, the only reason John Ashcroft was named Attorney General in the first place was, he could not beat a dead person in an election, but was such a GOP loyalist they needed to reward him somehow.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:25 PM   #80
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And remember that the deaths due to Fast and Furious weren't only forseeable, they were intended. The entire goal of the operation was for Mexican drug lords to get a bunch of guns and start killing people, then blame the whole mess on US gun dealers so he could get stiffer gun laws passed. Having people die was the goal of the operation.
THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO TALK RADIO ACTUALLY BELIEVE
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:25 PM   #81
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I guess people here just don't care about Fast & Furious?
No, this is not true.

Fast & Furious matters. It's child's play next to warrantless wiretapping of American citizens without probably cause, and not even child's play compared to John Mitchell.

But of course we don't need to judge Holder by the same standards as you'd just other AG's, because, you know Kenyan-Muslim-in-the-White-House and all...

Holder has been, at worst, a below average AG. Far from the worst ever.

Nothing worse than selling guns to Mexican drug lords? How about authorizing torture, for starters?

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Old 06-12-2012, 07:30 PM   #82
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Fast & Furious matters. It's child's play next to warrantless wiretapping of American citizens without probably cause, and not even child's play compared to John Mitchell.
Good God this.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:30 PM   #83
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Those who are ignorant of history, are doomed to not know things ever took place in this world before the day they suddenly decided to become interested in drudgereport.com.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:31 PM   #84
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THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO TALK RADIO ACTUALLY BELIEVE
It's what the ATF believes.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_16...n-regulations/
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:33 PM   #85
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Oh, and for those bitching and moaning about the failure that is Fast and Furious...go back and read up on Reagan's AG Ed Meese helping to sell weapons to ****ing Iran and shipping the profits to Nicarauguan right wing rebels, and then get back to us on how ZOMG horrible Fast and Furious actually is, in that light.

To be clear, Meese didn't sell the missles to Iran. He did, however, actively work to cover up anything that could directly connect it to Reagan.

He was also against Miranda warnings, and for National Guard armed occupations of college campuses.

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Old 06-12-2012, 09:00 PM   #86
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So do bad AG's outnumber good AG's like 10-1 or what? It's much harder to name good ones.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:07 PM   #87
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So do bad AG's outnumber good AG's like 10-1 or what? It's much harder to name good ones.
It's impossible for a law enforcement apparatus that large to not have numerous scandals and controversies over the course of a 4-8 year period. So not only is the AG de facto responsible for them but he's a popular target for the opposition party as one of the President's most prolific appointments. There will never be a "good" AG again imo.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:27 PM   #88
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Attorney General should be renamed the Taker of Rights
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:31 PM   #89
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I mean simply doing nothing would be better than the last 4 AGs. Which is especially true because most DOJ attorneys are smart, very qualified, hard-working people.
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Old 06-13-2012, 12:45 PM   #90
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Yes, I recognize Janet Reno. But don't remember what she did during her term of service.
She murdered innocent American citizens.

Par for the course I guess.
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