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01-05-2017 , 05:10 PM
http://cleanenergycanada.org/wp-cont...ooks_final.pdf

US investment in 2015 was about half of China's. If you check out that PDF you'll see the only way to stop renewables will be to intentionally stop them by restricting them legally and subsidizing (even more) fossil fuels. Unfortunately that might be the administration we're getting.

If you look at the PDF check out that Indian woman on that "ladder". That's not a good ladder.
01-05-2017 , 06:32 PM
that's definitely the administration we're getting. No one on the right will complain about picking winners and losers when Exxon starts getting loads of free money and no renewable company does. That's just how things should be. Anything else is picking winners and losers!
01-06-2017 , 03:37 AM
Well, America just started some serious battery building.

http://www.ecowatch.com/tesla-gigafa...180108430.html

They are still building the building and when done it will have the largest footprint of any building in the world at 5.8 million square feet.
01-06-2017 , 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
The great eternal mystery to me will be whether the Shifty86's of the world actually believe a plucky band of well-funded industry shills has exposed a massive conspiracy perpetrated by an overwhelming majority of the world's climate scientists, or if they just argue this stuff for the fun of it.

I suspect we will never know.
You would have thought that he would start fact checking stuff after the "double blind peer reviewed paper" debacle but he seems to doubling down on this kind of crap. He's still posting stuff from blogs with obvious agendas instead of citing credible sources, presumably because he can't find anything taken from a credible source that agrees with his viewpoint. You just need to look at his response to the dodgy paper to see what his mindsight is like. Instead of holding his hands up and admitting he screwed up he came out with this gem of a post. This attitude is completely non-sensical to me. I've lost count of the amount of times that I've been wrong about something science related. On each occasion my response has been to thank the person that corrected my misunderstanding.

At the time I asked why he seemed to think that the majority of climate change scientists were frauds. In hindsight I should have asked him why he didn't source check it himself. Every time I cite a paper I have to double check where it's come from. It's a time consuming and frustrating process but you've got to do it if you want your work to have any credibiity.
01-06-2017 , 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Csaba
I've lost count of the amount of times that I've been wrong about something science related. On each occasion my response has been to thank the person that corrected my misunderstanding.
That's what basically all the political divisions in America boil down to: people who are interested in learning new things and people who are convinced they're always right no matter what facts say.
01-09-2017 , 01:13 PM
01-09-2017 , 01:16 PM
Fluke
01-09-2017 , 06:54 PM
What's the consensus in here on thorium reactors?
01-09-2017 , 08:01 PM
Consensus is that they will take too long to certify and build.
01-09-2017 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
At least Canada and Mexico stayed exactly on average.

Spoiler:
herp derp
01-12-2017 , 03:35 AM
News report on a tidal lagoon project.

Any opinions on this? It's not something that I've come across before.
01-12-2017 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Csaba
News report on a tidal lagoon project.

Any opinions on this? It's not something that I've come across before.
Ok by me. Cost is the issue with tidal power. In a few specific places it has been competitive. On this lagoon project in Wales in particular the price is expected to be about 11 cents per kwh, which is very high for a wholesale price. But, perhaps they feel the pathway at the top serves a worthwhile recreational purpose.
01-19-2017 , 10:58 AM
2016 was the hottest year ever and the third record breaking year in a row according to NASA and the NOAA. We'll see if they are allowed to collect data for this in 2017.
01-19-2017 , 11:29 AM
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Every square inch of the contiguous USA was warmer than "normal" in 2016, our 20th consecutive year above 20th century average.
This is a lie. I distinctly remember setting my freezer from "cold" to "colder" last March.

Why aren't these "scientists" investigating my firm ice cream? Socialists.
01-21-2017 , 06:34 PM
https://www.whitehouse.gov/america-first-energy

Yeah, the planet is ****ed.

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he Trump Administration will embrace the shale oil and gas revolution to bring jobs and prosperity to millions of Americans.
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The Trump Administration is also committed to clean coal technology, and to reviving America’s coal industry, which has been hurting for too long.
01-21-2017 , 07:40 PM
I would bet money that US coal, oil and gas extraction and usage is within 5% no matter who's president.
01-21-2017 , 10:30 PM
Solid chance that emissions will be lower under Trump if a big enough recession happens. Classic lose-win scenario.
01-22-2017 , 07:00 PM
https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/...newable-energy

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The new Wyoming bill would forbid utilities from using solar or wind sources for their electricity by 2019

The bill calls for a fine of $10 per megawatt-hour of electricity from a renewable source to be slapped on Wyoming utilities that provide power from unapproved sources to in-state customers.
Welcome to the new Dark Ages.
01-22-2017 , 07:03 PM
Nothing like the free market.
01-22-2017 , 07:04 PM
Picking winners and losers is only bad if there's a (D) by your name.
01-22-2017 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Beyond horrible. I'm sure Shifty will still find a way to say it's good.

Still though, solar is already contracting for under $30 per megawatt hour and wholesale electricity rates average something like $40 per megawatt hour and peak demand prices are more like $75 per megawatt hour, so the $10 per megawatt hour fine for using solar might not stop the utilities.
01-23-2017 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Beyond horrible. I'm sure Shifty will still find a way to say it's good.

Still though, solar is already contracting for under $30 per megawatt hour and wholesale electricity rates average something like $40 per megawatt hour and peak demand prices are more like $75 per megawatt hour, so the $10 per megawatt hour fine for using solar might not stop the utilities.
Holy ****. I guess the question is where is that $10 penalty going to go?

I so want to become a Wyoming voter. Holy ****. That place needs fixing at every level. Plus my vote is worth more due to low population and electoral votes.

Last edited by sylar; 01-23-2017 at 02:37 AM.
01-24-2017 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
much much better than if it was the other way around.
01-24-2017 , 07:31 PM
Your fear is that we're going to plunge ourselves into a man-made ice age? I think we'll be ok on that one.
01-24-2017 , 08:10 PM
not my fear at all its just i would be much more fearful if climate change meant colder global temperatures.

      
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