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Old 08-18-2011, 11:03 PM   #1
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Empires never last; how long does the USA have?

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship." - Alexander Tyler

I'm not suggesting that the USA will cease to exists, but simply suggesting that it's days as the World's economic & military Superpower are numbered. IMO the writing is on the wall & it's only a matter of time.

So how long have we got?
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:08 PM   #2
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'bout tree-fiddy, obv.
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:29 PM   #3
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Re: Empires never last; how long does the USA have?

Part of my graduate work was actually a paper on this exact topic of which I titled "The Future of Democracy". I received a high grade, 97%, despite not even having a bibliography. Such is so, my paper as it were concludes that a perennial confusion brought about by an increased transparency with the perception of democratic principles will lead to a new, satanic, ideology that I dub a "demonocracy".
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:29 PM   #4
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What does your post have to do with your title? Are you trying to debate empires or democracies here?
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:33 PM   #5
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Re: Empires never last; how long does the USA have?

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Part of my graduate work was actually a paper on this exact topic of which I titled "The Future of Democracy". I received a high grade, 97%, despite not even having a bibliography. Such is so, my paper as it were concludes that a perennial confusion brought about by an increased transparency with the perception of democratic principles will lead to a new, satanic, ideology that I dub a "demonocracy".
So you fellated your professor's frontal lobes really nicely, eh?
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:36 PM   #6
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Re: Empires never last; how long does the USA have?

I remember when I quoted System of a Down " Why don't presidents fight the war, why do they always send the poor?" and got an A. It was quite the piece of academia.
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:38 PM   #7
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System of a Down sucks.
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but liberal history teachers eat that contrived bs right up.
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Old 08-19-2011, 12:01 AM   #9
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It's not already over?
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Old 08-19-2011, 12:03 AM   #10
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Re: Empires never last; how long does the USA have?

I'm going to answer the thread question about empire, not the mechanical quote about democracy.

The American empire has repeatedly reinvented itself, but the form it's taking now seems based on military dominance of a key resource -- oil. It's like those irrigation states that developed in Southeast Asia -- all power belonged to the city that controlled the headwaters of a vast irrigation system. And by controlling Mideast oil, Washington can leverage advantages from many a country. So it looks like our military caste and its empire will remain in place until the oil runs out.

Or it finds new resources that are centralized enough to control, or the American public decides to cast out the money changers.
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Old 08-19-2011, 12:13 AM   #11
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Fossil fuel based economies can't have *that* long left, can they? One way or another!
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Re: Empires never last; how long does the USA have?

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"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship." - Alexander Tyler

I'm not suggesting that the USA will cease to exists, but simply suggesting that it's days as the World's economic & military Superpower are numbered. IMO the writing is on the wall & it's only a matter of time.

So how long have we got?
We have as long as it takes before an entire 2/5 no limit table in Florida buys in full. That is 10 players @ $500- ain't gonna happen

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Old 08-19-2011, 12:56 AM   #13
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'bout tree-fiddy, obv.
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Old 08-19-2011, 12:59 AM   #14
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So you fellated your professor's frontal lobes really nicely, eh?
I'm not sure what you mean but they enjoyed it and afterwords we went out for drinks because we're friends.
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Old 08-19-2011, 01:04 AM   #15
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Re: Empires never last; how long does the USA have?

I have thought of this alot actually.

In 12 -20 years, most of the money the government takes in is going to pay seniors SS payments and cover their health care. ALL the money working people pay in taxes will go to debt service, SS, and medicare. Someone will come out and rally the people in their 20s,30s, 40s that the generation that we are paying for is the same generation that ran up the 30 trillion debt, and they have to be cut off completely.

It will be very ugly and I will be pushing 60, so GG.

Even the Ryan budget allowed all baby boomers to get full benies, before the people under 50 take haircuts.

Obamacare will put it off a tad by not treating old people on medicare for alot of stuff, but that only supports a societal attitude that your too old, cost to much, take some pain pills, you got to go.

It's hard to invision a way that we will be the same country in 25 years.
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