I'm not amazed by that, but I get what you mean. The gov't actively filters out any pro drug info and propagandizes drugs only giving out negative info.

In the usa, with the gov't own statistics, mj use in teens DROPPED in states that went with medical mj and/or decrim (I forget which or if it was both). I'm not surpised they are not telling people this.

Want the REAL TRUTH about drugs? Go to the people on the front line, the people who know, without a doubt. Law Enforcement AGAINST PROHIBITION

WWW.LEAP.CC

watch the video's.

And when people point out that there are certainly methods that can be used to help these people, specifically ones that will remove the criminal penalties that lead to at least half of what you're complaining about, you hand wave it away.

If people were able to make some new super drug with Pepsi, what would you suggest? What if it was ice cream?

Yes, no one ever died from acid or shrooms. Legalize pot and ecstasy too. Just use some common sense with the hardcore highly addictive drugs like crack, meth and heroin. Every solution to every problem doesn't have to be one-size-fits-all.

Some delicious irony there

It's not remotely the same thing. Sudafed is one of a myriad of cold remedies. You can still get it if you really want it. No you don't have to go to the Dr. every time. Once you get to know your Dr. you can call and they'll put in the prescription. People do the same thing with codeine cough syrup.

Sudafed wasn't even that big of a seller before the home labs. These pharma execs wouldn't even care if they weren't paying for their summer house with smurfer money.

At some point you just have to say it would do a world of good for not that much harm, and save society a lot of money.

With that I think I need to quit this thread. I'm not going to take on the all-drugs-should-always-be-legal, govt-regulations-always-bad crowd forever.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...20072096.shtml


There is no way to win this war. It is going to be a never ending war.......

No. No there really isn't any irony. None. Much less delicious irony.

You guys are the one with the one-size-fits-all solution to every single problem. I'm probably more of a centrist than anyone on this forum.

Suzzer: the new ikes

I like how everyone thinks all the drugs up to what they do should be legal, but no further. OBV weed/e/LSD is fine because I do all these well but when I see gross meth heads P/heroin should be illegal. Eh hypocripsy ITT

If only some country had decriminalized cocaine, we would have some evidence about whether that policy resulted in a sharp decline in drug-related mortality or in people dropping left and right. Alas.

there are studies and data from several contries that show reduced consumption when decrim/medical mj come into play. That is even true in the US based on our govt's own study (don't hold your breath waiting for them to put it on the front page). Decreased teen use of pot in those states compared to states where it's simply illegal where there is either the same or higher levels of teen use.

Correlation<>Causation LDO

How much alcohol do u drink? do u get hammered every night b/c it's legal? What about drinking so your physically dependent, after all, it's legal? If not, surely a few shots every morning before work, right?

It's funny, I wish I could pull up the survey, but there was a survey done where people were asked 2 questions:
1. If drugs were legal would you start to use drugs that you do not currently use?
2. If drugs were legal would your neighbors start to use drugs they do not currently use?

95% of those polled said they would NOT start using drugs. Also....

95% of those polled said their neighbors WOULD start using drugs...

It's obvious based on a study like this that there is a false perception that other people are going to run hog wild if drugs were legalized, when in fact they will not (because 19 out of 20 said they wouldn't).

I find that poll very telling. Paranoia about other people. I like to approach life from a place of confort and safety, not from a place of fear. It's not healthy.

I remember when MJ became decrrim in MA a cpl yrs ago. Due to the huge college population I was pretty certain that the day the law went into effect there would be ton's of college kids roaming the streets smoking weed (and I'm an ex pot head and pro legalization). Nothing even remotely like that happened. There was virtually NO CHANGE in the way college kids and others behaved in public (except, I'm told, in very large public gatherings like outdoor concerts...but who cares's about those isolated and contained events, alcohol consumption has always created more societal problems in such situations anyway. potheads don't beat up random people for kicks the way alcohol intoxicated ppl do).

Regardless, it's better than our system. Cops don't decrease MJ use. After they arrest some kid for having a joint and his criminal record is ruined and he can't get college loans and his driver's lisence is taken away (even if the incident had nothing to do with a car) and they pay 3K or whatever to go through the courts.... what do they do then? Do they go to the local police station that busted them where the cops all befrend the person to fill the social void they have to proactively work to help the kid change for the better?

drug use is a medical/psychiatric/psychological/self-esteem/social confidence/etc issue.

It isn't a police matter. Let's let the police be and let them focus on their jobs: They are rapid responders to emergency situations. With such a job I would say they have their hands full and don't need to be bothered with some guy who has a bag of pot and ruining his life by giving him a criminal record.

Damn, I don't get to send evil mother ssssss to the firing squad and pull out their finger nails, cut off their fingers and stuff????? what the hell is this country coming to!!!!