Yeah, this is a big issue. Anyone that is interested should google "school to prison pipeline."

Damn it my pony slow.

Also, not shocked that Ikes jumps in to mock well-documented institutional racism in schools.

Ikes. You are right. OP did not provide a racial breakdown of his kid's school.

But why does it have to be the same school to be an issue?

I linked to a kid EXPELLED for posing in a picture his science teacher requested and making a gesture alleged to be gang related. Expelled as in kicked out of school.

You don't think whites getting a pass on cheating is a little divergent from black kids getting expelled for nothing? I can give you another link of a basketball player suspended for making the three point sign and a white kid ignored for making the exact same sign. When the black kid did it, they said it was a Bloods sign. This in frigging Sheboygan Falls, Wisconsin.

I think you a racked by white guilt.

It doesn't have to be the same school to be an issue but you asserted this school had the issue and was why they weren't punished severely. That's you making **** up

There is a very important socialization lesson to be learned here.

If you are high achieving people are apt to like you, think favorably of you, and treat you with leniency when necessary.

When you blatantly disrespect someone they are likely to do the opposite.

Ikes wants to believe his successes were 100% free from privilege; that his talent and intellect were the only reasons for getting where he has gotten.

Institutional racism, while being a social reality, doesn't jive with his pure self-efficacy theory.

We frequently see in the forum what happens when ones internalized, prejudicial beliefs are challenged by scientific realities: Rejection of science to ease the dissonance! It happens in thread after thread.

See Chicagoland. All those punishments serve no purpose. Just creates another person who wont be able to function in society as an adult.

Because winning the genetic/nurture lottery is somehow better?

1) You don't get to talk about science with any authority ITF. Go play with barbies.
2) You've done nothing but fail when you try to soul read me. You sure you want to go down that path again?

The correct answer is all of the above obviously. Although I would argue that genetics and environment outside of race make up a much larger portion of a persons success. I don't think that's controversial to anyone.

Spending 5 minutes on Google would lead to discovering how Barbie has gotten critical attention from psychologists and social researchers for years. Outside of a general aversion to social science I don't get why you're so fired up about Barbie.

70,000 comments is a lot of behavior to work with, and while determinations made by observing human behavior might seem mysterious and require 'soul reads' to you, there actually are methods to the madness. Again, your aversion to social science leaves you woefully disadvantaged.

Is there a thread in this forum that racism does not work it's way into?

Not anymore.

And, it seems, there has been no progress in the last 60 years.

Are there any other aspects of reality that you racists want other posters to never mention lest it hurt your fee-fees?

Like can we get a list stickied of the prohibited social and political influences?

Was it insensitive of the people doing this study to accurately report the results?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/21/us...education&_r=0

Won't somebody think of the old white men??!?!?!

Jesus Christ. Oh how you long for the days when you could defend Jim Crow in peace and quiet, eh? Now everything is so uncouth and uncivilized.

But we denied racism! How can it still exist?

The tools to destroy racism are more widely available than ever. Look at us using some of them to insult each other!

Is that what you did when you used to call yourself a libertarian? I know I never did.

Both the students that were caught cheating were white females since everyone needs to keep score. They are kind of minorities I guess. This thread was somehow hijacked by people who are obsessed with race. Since both the students that went unpunished are female we should be talking about reverse sexism and how if these students were white males what would have happened.

Did you go off your meds again or something? You were posting better after the big old meltdown where essentially every reg berated you for being a huge racist while you tried your "raised by wolves" act, but it seems like were back to the same guy who whined bitterly whenever anyone brought up Ron Paul's newletters. Why do you think PB, DrM, DVaut, me, Trolly, Wookie, etc all thought you were racist, if not for your defenses of Jim Crow? Just an amazing series of guesses?

Very little whining that Ron Paul wrote the newsletters, though! Funny how that **** works. (Do you honestly think you fool anyone?)

Should grownups capable of having adult discussions about the issues of the day*, such as Bill earlier in this thread, not mention the racism problem in public school discipline in this here "Discipline in public schools" thread?

*Note this group does not include you. By choice. You have chosen to relegate yourself to the fringes.

No disrespect meant to your OP, but the thread title touched upon a general topic that is related to racial issues and is timely. Race and discipline in public schools is getting examined from a variety of angles in recent times. News just last week ( I only caught the headline) about racial disparity with regard to public preschool suspensions.

Do you really think it is an obsession, an unhealthy need or urge? Should we stop examining the evidence? Choose not to discuss related events and outcomes?

So, is it that you are bitter towards libertarians because someone explained to you that you were actually defending Jim Crow when you were a libertarian?

As for me being the same old me, I dunno. I mean, I have an over-sensitivity to bullying, and that makes me go a little overboard defending people sometimes whether or not they deserve it, which some people might have overzealously mistook for racism if I were defending someone accused of that, but I've never said anything actually racist, and you know it. And I'm not doing that now anyway. You're just bringing it up as a distraction because I'm saying true things about what an awful poster you are.

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Wall Street would have showed up to offer them lucrative jobs, I'm sure.

Or do you have evidence that the same thing happened to white boys at this school and they were punished?

I'm not saying you're wrong. The justice system shows us that men get worse punishments than women for the same crime. And minorities harsher sentences than whites. I'm not sure anyone disputes this.