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08-20-2017 , 09:53 PM
How'd I know Keeed would be a Bad Accent Guy.
08-21-2017 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian


this makes me wonder if the press conference even was him revealing his hatred, or if he just has mashed potato brains and is obsessed with the only channel that gives him positive media coverage
Democrats are not going to win on this. like 90% of white people see that and are on Trump's side. Democrats have to run on universal health care, global warming, actual liberal issues.
08-21-2017 , 01:14 AM
it's not a dccc commercial
08-21-2017 , 01:20 AM
Srsly, not every ****ing thing is How Win Election by 2p2.

Some of it is just, hey, lol, we're all gonna die. And that's OK.
08-21-2017 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
Srsly, not every ****ing thing is How Win Election by 2p2.

Some of it is just, hey, lol, we're all gonna die. And that's OK.
08-21-2017 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Bleh
Andy Milonakis' Civil War Re-enactment Reality TV? ;-]

The kid doesn't appear to have much conviction, and, while he has been indoctrinated early, may be able to be rescued from them.
08-21-2017 , 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DrModern


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(2) The police seemed totally neutral and disinterested. They just stood around at designated points to make sure nothing got out of control. My friends and I had left to go drink at a bar before anyone got arrested.


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The police were doing exactly what they were supposed to at a peaceful protest. They have such a history of showing their asses, however, and doing unethical/illegal things, that when they just do their jobs, it warrants notice.
08-21-2017 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
This is fantastic.
08-21-2017 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
The KKK should really just rename themselves World Peace without changing anything. That way if anyone protests them they can be like, "how you can you protest world peace?"
I have a t-shirt which commemorates the San Diego Free Speech Fight... which was a real thingee, that really had to do with our 1st-A rights, and really happened in 1912.

Now, I'm not sure if I wanna be walking around in public with a shirt that says "free speech" on it... lest I be mistaken for a neo-fascist/alt-right/deplorable.
08-21-2017 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Right. Their uselessness to women, employers, dominant social groups, etc. is not incidental to the story here. They clutch at the last thing they can spot that gives them any status at all (being a white guy). Their depravity is also due to social forces of libertarian impulses and capitalism (at least the cheap consumer/technology products part) filing the void with low brow culture like cartoons and porn that more orthodox institutions like family, organized religion and professional life used to fill for men.

The sexual revolution resulted in lots of people having a lot more sex but it did not promise more sex for everyone. Free market capitalism promised great wealth and status for competitive men especially for the privileged, but did not promise dignity for everyone. And some bros were destined to be un****able and useless and basically surplus -- and here we are. Hordes of angry dudes without much to do in their lives but troll and jerk off and spread misery.
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The radicalization of white Americans

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A common thread among people who are radicalized is a lack of purpose in life, which radical views — especially if a person acts on them — can help fill. “People tend to be seeking some meaning in their lives,” Bloom said. “They want to be part of something bigger than themselves.”
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James Fields, the man accused of killing a woman in Charlottesville with his car, reportedly had trouble making friends, left the military after only four months of service (“due to a failure to meet training standards”), and until a few months ago lived with his mom. It’s hard to say for sure, but those issues may have contributed to his radicalization.
I do not sympathize with these guys. But I definitely think larger trends in society are enabling some measure of deepening right-wing radicalization. 'Useless' feels harsh but I think is ultimately the right word. One thing you recognize when you read popular history going back basically forever is the idea that one universal thing everyone believed, from the imperial era China to the Romans to the Church during the Middle Ages to political leadership in democracies during the Great Depression -- was that a bunch of basically idle, useless men without much to do had great, destructive capacity for the rest of society, were candidates for political radicalization that would upset the status quo, and it was the state's (or the church's) obligation to figure out what do with guys who weren't otherwise going to be elite contributors to society.

I feel like we're learning old lessons here.
08-21-2017 , 11:56 AM
Dvault,

For one large segment of unemployed men we've got the prison industrial complex.

You're going to have a hard time ginning up a purpose to life. There isn't one. My eldest daughter, familiar with Kierkegaard and despairing the purposelessness of life, is considering either being a Sufi or a Zoroastrian. My wife is a Yogi. I'm starting an anarcho-syndicalist utopian society. I know you are aware, but there are downsides to spoonfeeding the entire population the same purpose that might be just as bad or worse than the idle youth. I guess the solution of the neo-liberal new world order is egoism or enlightened individualism, but imo that's not very compatible with human nature. And let's not forget that many of these disaffected males, either gamergaters, neo-neo-Nazis or Western ISIS recruits, are educated and upper middle class. They are supposed to have a sense of purpose in modern society.
08-21-2017 , 12:00 PM
But what do we do with these people? Just giving them money won't work; they'll still be losers that can't get a date.
08-21-2017 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
But what do we do with these people? Just giving them money won't work; they'll still be losers that can't get a date.
Sexbots? Or truly immersive vr? Or both!
08-21-2017 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
But what do we do with these people? Just giving them money won't work; they'll still be losers that can't get a date.
The murderer probably thought a cool new challenger or whatever car it was, would attract women.
08-21-2017 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
The murderer probably thought a cool new challenger or whatever car it was, would attract women.
Is this a tasteless joke or am I a bad person for seeing the potential joke in it?
08-21-2017 , 12:11 PM
It's good to make fun of these people for not getting laid, but I suspect having children is a much better cure of misanthropy and nihilism for disaffected young(ish) men than the getting laid part. Maybe that brings us back to the old time religion.
08-21-2017 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
Is this a tasteless joke or am I a bad person for seeing the potential joke in it?
The tasteless joke part occurred to me. I tried to think of a way to avoid it.
08-21-2017 , 12:14 PM
Most rednecks i know have wifes and kids. Dont think the olds became disillusioned racists because lack of sex.
08-21-2017 , 12:17 PM
Rednecks aren't the problem. Well, they kind of are, they are of course racist morons who vote for Donald Trump, but I'm talking about the people who go on senseless killing sprees. The dude who shot up Sandy Hook was upper middle class.
08-21-2017 , 12:21 PM
Trump got elected mostly by old racists. They are a problem. More worried about their impact then young sexless gamer kids who dont vote much.
08-21-2017 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
But what do we do with these people? Just giving them money won't work; they'll still be losers that can't get a date.
The Wage System requires structural unemployment to do it's evil. That means a significantly large % of peeps will always want and need a gerb, but won't get crated. Regardless of how "useless" these peeps are. For as long as we suffer under the Wage System. Woman folk are more easily absorbed into unwaged labor (home making, child rearing, etc) or degraded sex work. A lotta men folk are in fact too "useless" for sex work y/o simply not willing to do either.

The traditional ways capitalism has dealt with this problem that capitalism itself causes are, as mentioned, (a) the Prison Industry Complex, or (b) kills them off as cannon fodder.

The proper way to address this problem is, of course, organizing the unemployed into a union. Which, if fact, has a long history of success both world wide, and in the US.


(disclaimer: I don't know in particular if AUWU is/was actually an example of a 'success')
08-21-2017 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
It's good to make fun of these people for not getting laid, but I suspect having children is a much better cure of misanthropy and nihilism for disaffected young(ish) men than the getting laid part. Maybe that brings us back to the old time religion.
Nah, we don't need them passing their ideas on to their offspring. Pretty sure part of the white supremacist agenda is to crank out as many babies as they can.
08-21-2017 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
Nah, we don't need them passing their ideas on to their offspring. Pretty sure part of the white supremacist agenda is to crank out as many babies as they can.
Just talking theory. Not recommending 18 yos stay having kids. It does make it hard to feel purposeless though.
08-21-2017 , 12:44 PM
ST,

How is an unemployed union a departure from the wage system? Seems like still petitioning the capitalists for succor, just on better terms.
08-21-2017 , 12:48 PM
One things liberals need to do a better job of pointing out is that the "whites will be a minority stuff" is greatly exaggerated.

On a census, if an Asian person and a White person have a kid, it is not considered white, while on first glance nearly everyone would consider the kid to be white.

Also, black people should stop using the word "bae", that has to be a driver of racism. (this is a joke)

      
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