Reality in NI is everything jeopardises the peace process.

Flegs, parades, historical inquiries, sinn fein being uppity fenians and probably brexit.

So when within the next 5 years the cost for products rises faster then then your wage, will it be the fault of the EU?

joschka fischer?

To a small degree possibly, depends on what deal (if any) they do. If it's equitable with, say, Canada's trading terms, fine by me.

Most of that effect, if any, will be from leaving the EU, but long term benefits or retaining democracy and sovreignity within the UK make it well worth the cost imo.

Not worth your time.

Ffs British government have waged at least one illegal war very recently, wtf is one former combatant in government.

**** knows how many war crimes they'd be convicted for in a just world.

We had a paedo as PM once too.

I, too, would like to know who you are referring to. Joschka Fischer might have sympathized with the RAF but he was never a member.
The only one I can think of is Hans-Christian Ströbele. He was the lawyer of the Baader-Meinhof gang and was later convicted for supporting a criminal organization (Red Army Faction). The reference to 2017 wouldn't make much sense because the first time he has been a member of parliament was in 1985 and has been continuously from 1998.

Lol

I think it's more likely he is talking about Christian Klar, who isn't an MdB, but works for one

lektor was saying that it was unthinkable for a former raf member to be elected in germany like the sein fein (and/or ira?) member in whatever parliament they were talking about. but the truth is there's been a couple of politicians with somewhat dark pasts.

I'm just curious here: you know that virtually the first time Teresa May did anything as PM it was to crawl up the American's arsehole in desperation? Desperation mainly caused by Brexit.

You know the yanks have us by the balls right? Like we actually go to war on whatever stupid pretext they come up with. They actually have military bases here. We send them our citizens guilty of the most minor crimes while they harbour IRA terrorists. They own half of every British high st. They have far more control over us than the eurocrats ever did.

I'd have thought any one remotely concerned with democracy or sovereignity would have an issue with that.

All while ignoring the previous and ongoing crimes committed by the British government.

Maggie gave her security forces carte blanche to slaughter us, Blair killed Iraq, yet Martina Anderson and her SF cronies are the devil incarnate - see post above for latest example.

Give my head peace ffs.

It isn't an either/or thing.

SF are c***s. They had a deliberate strategy of attacking working-class protestants to bring down retaliation on their own community, knowing that would radicalize the Catholic population. All so they could swank around in fancy ministerial cars and talk nobly about peace for a fat fee, and sell out the rank and file who actually believed in a united ireland.

I hate SF for the same reason I hate the British government: it is a self-interested political elite that screws people over.

First I'd like you to tell me just what it's like living here and how bad it was? After that you can justify the bolded.

Go on, make an even bigger fool of yourself than you just have with this ^^ post.

Seriously this guy has absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

Truth hurts doesn't it? You Sinners never understand how badly you got ****ed over by your own party. You are like battered women making excuses.

I'm not sure what credibility you think you have as an apologist for terrorist scum that murdered thousands of innocent people, including terrorizing their own community.

Lol you haven't a clue.

I'm sure I already posted my feelings on SF but I'll share again just for you.

I dgaf about them, never have.

What I can see is they are willing to be genuine partners in peace here, a year or two ago I wouldn't have said this. Unionists stuck in their ways is main issue, they won't get with programme and become genuine partners. Which imo is what the majority here want.

Lektor just posting that crap 'SF = terrorist' is a unionist line of thinking that is holding this place back, that's why I railed against it itt. Helps nothing.

Gonna need some quotes to back this up. Ta.

Why do you need to lie itt?

Crickets

That you condemn needless civilian deaths in Iraq but not in the UK mainland or in Ireland. I condemn both. For you it seems to depend whose killing who. For example you earlier excused the killing of your own Protestant countrymen because "they" (i.e. a small subset of their coreligionists) were killing your Catholic countrymen.


Yes, and also unthinkable for a former ETA member to be the hot favourite for next Holy Father - I thought that might have given you all a clue

I'm not talking about specific people. I'm disagreeing with Marty's view that "in 2017" we've moved passed judging people for a few murders here and there in the dim and distant past.

I posted about a specific person with two separate convictions for IRA activity

Moving on as a party means recognizing such people belong in the past. If you don't want to then fine but don't expect great relations with other groups.

And I recognise some people wouldn't, but speaking for myself I'd say the same if the DUP fielded a convicted UVF terrorist as MEP.

I've posted condemnation of IRA violence in this forum more than once before, I don't feel the need to do the same every time they're mentioned. Just happens that I know all about PIRA inflicted violence, probably more than any member of this forum, it's nothing to be celebrated.

If I excused killing protestants in your opinion (I'd like to see it please) then that's the last thing I meant and I'll apologise profusely.

As for it being 2017 and time to move on, yes I happen to feel that's the right thing for here.

Moving on as a party means just that, be progressive in your attitudes to everything. Shocks even me that I think SF are genuine in their attempts for partnership but hey ho that's the truth.

And if the DUP ran a candidate that was a former member of UDR for instance? Or former British army member? It's just something we have to accept, same for unionists.

Paisley could accept McGuinness and vice versa, what's your problem?

I mean post 7442. Also in 7434 you describe the provisional IRA campaign as an armed struggle against British oppression.

RE: DUP check my edit before you posted.

I'd also think a British soldier with war crimes conviction would be an inappropriate person to send as one's sole representative to the hemicycle too. Anyone who thought differently would be seen as pretty extreme by the standards of the UK mainland (or pretty much any country).

I have to assume this is me excusing PIRA killing protestants.

Lol **** off.

Seriously? You are seriously saying the IRA never killed innocent people? What the **** is wrong with you?

Where and when did I say this? You've accused me of being an apologist, I'd like to see the quotes.

Just a figment of your imagination. Same as the IRA campaign against Protestants so as to bring their wrath upon us.

Go away liar.

You wrote:

Gonna need some quotes to back this up. Ta.

Why do you need to lie itt?

in response to my post where I wrote:

I'm not sure what credibility you think you have as an apologist for terrorist scum that murdered thousands of innocent people, including terrorizing their own community.