I didn't say "all". Name one thing.

You'll notice when defending their record Labour politicians struggle to name anything. They talk about surestart centres. If that is the best they can do they are not worth voting for.

We will need EU migrants for years, admits Davis
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/...cid=spartandhp

Of course we will lol

Ain't about migration dude. It's about decisions affecting the UK that can be made by the UK should be made by the UK.

No, it should be about decisions that affect England that can be made by England should be made by England

it was to you but not to an awful lot of gullible folk who thought it was just about immigration.

If it's about net migration then the supposed need for foreign labour doesn't have to be a contributor to net migration at all unless the number of jobs requiring foreign workers increases. People simply come and do the job for a while then they go home, being replaced by the next lot, the coach at Victoria bus station is full in both directions and net migration is zero.

Govt. too ******ed to make that point.

Obviously a few people will get married etc. so in practice it would be a small contributor.

Yeah that's why Teresa May is crawling up Trump's arse right now.

Yes that's quite right. Or whatever combo wants to stay in the UK. I'm fine if Scotland want to leave, makes sense to me. And the others too, if they are keen on self-determination.

What about London?

they're not allowed lol

I'm from London so I can say... That's just being a Dick about it.

can my road leave?

What was it to Diebiter?

Let me take a wild stab in the dark here:

1) Has he ever considered that we have for example one of the most one-sided extradition treaties in the world with the US? You know the one where they lock up our autistic people in supermax jails while IRA members remain beyond our laws in New York?
2) Has he ever considered the negative influence of foreign corporations on our NHS, public utilities and other public services?
3) Is he worried about the encroachment of American culture into virtually every aspect of British life. Has he even considered the recent demise of the British pub at the hands of the Seattle-born microbrewery?
4) Is he keen on strengthening our ties with Commonwealth nations? That's "our EU" remember, the one we set up for our own advantages.
5) Is he worried about the largest single immigrant group to the UK, the Chinese? Or Russian oligarchs with their criminal, sleazy corrupt backgrounds and connections?

Protecting our culture, laws and society is something I could get behind. However, the remainers seem to have a very selective narrowness of focus. Which makes me think they just don't like slavs or arabs much but are quite prepared to take it up the arse from the yanks or whomsoever they perceive as racially pure or big enough to push them around. Which makes for a sh** foreign policy.

If they were more even-handed it would be harder to argue the point.

Why do you just make arguments up? I used to work in the brewing industry, and the demise of British pubs started at least 15 years ago and has little/nothing to do with microbrewerys.

By far the biggest predictor was the smoking ban, followed by greedy breweries charging extortionate rent and tying beer in.

Quoted for Truth.

It's lucky we have what craft beer culture we do have. US, Canada and Australia are all ahead of us on that, inheriting more would be great!

At the millennium my local had 2 mediocre ales, 2 awful lagers and 2 ciders. Now we have fantastic choice even in most of our cheapest chain pubs. How could you complain about that!!?

The beer argument is funny. If everything was going as well as beer is then what a truly great world it would be.

Later today I will be putting my money where my mouth is.

+1

I'm going to be making homebrew cider with my father-in-law this summer, so if my account goes inactive sometime around September then you'll know what happened.

they're still going to take an axe to these numbers. which is a shame because nothing good will come from it.

So Germany now gets bragging rights for fastest growing economy over Britain in 2016.

It pulls in with a massive 1.9% Growth, UK= 1.8%.

This is in the good phase of the business cycle, with interest rates at lows never before thought possible and billions in money printing.

WAAF.

i mean, well done avoiding all those awful international students. im sure this will help people in lincolnshire find better paying jobs


https://twitter.com/alantravis40/sta...14544899493889

You don't go out much do you?

I said "recent". Yes, the pub was in decline long before, but they are now being taken over by the microbreweries.

And btw the biggest single factor judging from pub workers I spoke to was the cheap booze going on sale in supermarkets.

So that's it? You focus on a typo?

I'm asking you to explain yourself when you say it wasn't about immigration, it was about sovereignity. When clearly British sovereignity is under attack from multiple sources. Because it seems like you don't have the intellect to do that. You just repeated something you read in the Mail and have no real interest in protecting British sovereignity.

Isn't a microbrewery just another kind of pub though, only differing in terms of how they source their product?

At one time in the distant past wouldn't most pubs have brewed their own beer? TBH I see it more as a return from the dead end of factory beer back to how things were before.

I took the opportunity to throw your own light back on you. I'm self aware enough to know I have a narrow focus as I'm concerned with the long term effects of staying in the EU. I'm pretty sure you have no such self awareness.

For example, you cannot concieve a possible future of the EU growing to a monstrous powerbase despite the lesson from history that any system that isn't accountable and transparent becomes corrupt EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Frankly, your insulting manner indicates a juvenile and fragile ego. And it would be a pointless exercise to engage you properly.

But whatever, please sit in your own little echo chamber and I will sit in mine.