Brexit Referendum - Page 205 - Politics and Economics

Far worse than any reports of hate crimes since the referendum, that is the worst ****ing indictment of leave voters I've seen. The health lottery? wtf is wrong with you people?

08-10-2016 , 01:09 PM

#5102

diebitter

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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1

Anyone who rates richmond sausages should obviously have the right to vote removed.

You can say the same about Virgin Trains tho

08-10-2016 , 01:15 PM

#5103

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Originally Posted by diebitter

You can say the same about Virgin Trains tho

how else am I supposed to get back to London from Birmingham or Manchester in 1.5 hours?

08-13-2016 , 05:15 AM

#5104

daca

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th uk cant even get rid of the ****ty parts of the eu http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...s-for-farming/

08-13-2016 , 07:51 AM

#5105

Habsfan09

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EU also wants the 25bn € debt paid before Brexit.

https://global.handelsblatt.com/brea...ll-outstanding

08-13-2016 , 07:52 AM

#5106

BAIDS

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ftse @ 6900 :O

08-13-2016 , 11:00 AM

#5107

LektorAJ

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Originally Posted by daca

th uk cant even get rid of the ****ty parts of the eu http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...s-for-farming/

Good choice. Take back control then change the policies slowly to what is good for us. Don't do it suddenly in a way that shocks the system.

The brands thing is interesting. Who would have though Remain voters would have such a taste for the ephemeral.

08-14-2016 , 06:50 AM

#5108

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First clown fight

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...controls-brit/

08-14-2016 , 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LektorAJ

Good choice. Take back control then change the policies slowly to what is good for us. Don't do it suddenly in a way that shocks the system.

getting rid of the agriculture subsidies is like 50% of the valid reasons for leaving the eu. keeping them even after leaving is just embarrassing. mainly it just seems like the brexit side not prepared to make politically unpopular choices even when they know it's right.

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08-15-2016 , 01:54 AM

#5110

LektorAJ

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^Sure, but cutting off things suddenly is not the right way to go.

In the 1980s Britain under Thatcher made a lot of the same reforms in half a decade that other European countries spent 2 decades making - the result of doing it so quickly was a split in the country.

08-15-2016 , 12:35 PM

#5111

plaaynde

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I still have not forgot about how people voted.

09-01-2016 , 08:21 AM

#5112

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The value of the pound has jumped after a survey indicated the UK's manufacturing sector rebounded sharply in August.

The Markit/CIPS purchasing managers' index (PMI) for the sector rose to 53.3 in August from July's figure of 48.3. A figure above 50 indicates expansion.

The weakening of the pound following the Brexit vote boosted exports, the survey found.

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09-01-2016 , 09:22 AM

#5113

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figured the bump would be about this http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...eresa-may-says

it's gonna be a hard brexit and a free trade agreement with no free movement or single market membership because that's what the conservatives want.

so congrats leavers. i hope sixfour falls in love with a german girl and diebitter has always dreamt of a sunny apartment on the coast of the mediterranean.

at least the fall of the pound gave the premier league 10% less financial power.

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09-01-2016 , 11:28 AM

#5114

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Originally Posted by daca

congrats leavers.

Thanks!

09-01-2016 , 05:35 PM

#5115

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so congrats leavers. i hope sixfour falls in love with a german girl

I met my wife in 2003 before the EU expansion.

You know it is possible to bang a girl from another country without the EU to coordinate it, right?

09-03-2016 , 07:23 AM

#5116

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This whole Apple thing with the EU is getting funnier and funnier. Now the Irish government are siding with Apple in the matter.

lol EU.

09-03-2016 , 07:40 AM

#5117

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You really don't grasp what this is about if you are surprised that the Irish gov is siding with Apple. Ireland & Apple were both profiting from that tax deal, to the disadvantage of the remaining EU. Of course they defend the deal, lol.

09-03-2016 , 08:40 AM

#5118

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I'm laughing at the EU acting to the detriment of sovereign governments, as usual

09-03-2016 , 08:52 AM

#5119

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Do you believe taxation/regulation races to the bottom are a good or bad thing for society in general?

09-03-2016 , 08:54 AM

#5120

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Ireland could do with that money about now, apparently if they get it they have to revise their GDP growth up for the period 2008-NOW about 5-10%.

09-03-2016 , 10:28 AM

#5121

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Do you believe taxation/regulation races to the bottom are a good or bad thing for society in general?

I believe that choice should be made via democratic institutions, not shytehawks like the EU

09-03-2016 , 11:08 AM

#5122

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Originally Posted by diebitter

I believe that choice should be made via democratic institutions, not shytehawks like the EU

You are not thinking this through, this is basically an instance of the "tragedy of the commons " on country level. If countries (voters) act on their short term self interest it leads to unsustainable outcomes where everyone is worse off in the long run.

One way to solve this dilemma is to establish a common ruleset that prevents aggressive undercutting. Of course the decision to join that ruleset should be democratically legitimized, but once you commit to the rules it should *not* be easily reversible. That's the whole point really.

09-03-2016 , 11:14 AM

#5123

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I'm laughing at the EU acting to the detriment of sovereign governments, as usual

dude, the only reason that these companies are in ireland is the single market. the eu has created these opportunities for ireland.

09-05-2016 , 07:09 AM

#5124

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The UK's services industry rebounded strongly in August, suggesting the country will "avoid recession", according to a closely-watched survey.

The Markit/CIPS purchasing managers' index (PMI) showed activity in UK services saw its largest month-on-month rise in the survey's history.

The index rose from 47.4 in July to 52.9 in August. A score above 50 indicates growth.

It effectively takes services back to pre-Brexit levels.

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